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#1 ·
I will be buying a 2013 Street Triple R once spring arrives, now the price on all the websites say 9999, now is there any haggle room with this price with it being a newer model? Should I try to talk the dealer down on the price or just ask for accessories instead?

I currently have 1 dealer in my area but in march/april another dealer will be selling triumph so im thinking they are really going to try and get the business from the other dealer so things could end up being rather competitive.
 
#2 ·
You might be able to work one dealer against the other. I know that wasn't an option in my case last year with only one Triumph dealer in the state. The dealer wouldn't waive the shipping/set up fee of $800, nor did they offer me any discount on gear/accessories.

I worked with someone who's parents owned a motorcycle dealership and she said the margins on the bikes is pretty thin to begin with which is why they don't discount new bikes. The only time you'll get a deal is when a new model year comes out. You'd be able to get a discount on a 2012 (if you can even find any left at the dealerships), but good luck getting any price break on a 2013.
 
#3 ·
AAAArrrggghhh....

Seriously? Discount on a 2013 model? I recently left a big four motorcycle dealership as a salesman, and now work as a service writer in a Triumph/ Ducati shop. It used to be the most enjoyable part of my day selling a new model to someone who thought that we made thousands of dollars on bikes. One of my most memorable lines was with a gentleman who wanted my "best cash price" on a very low-priced machine. I looked at him and asked, if the last time he was at the grocery store, when he got to the checkout did he ask for the "best cash price" on the gallon of milk he had grabbed. He responded that no he did not, but that it wasn't the same thing, as buying a bike. I agreed with him, the logic being that he needed the milk, but the bike was not a necessity. It was a desire. Do you think you paid exactly the cost of that gallon of milk, or was there a margin of profit in that price? If a milk farmer doesn't make a profit, then that farmer will go out of business. My "best cash price" is the manufacturer's suggested retail price, MSRP, plus sales tax, freight and prep, and dealer doc fee. The dealership doesn't set the price, the manufacturer does. Triumph has some great rebates and some good financing offers, provided you have good credit. In today's financial environment, it's good to have at least 10% down. Good luck with your buying experience!
 
#5 ·
Seriously? Discount on a 2013 model? I recently left a big four motorcycle dealership as a salesman, and now work as a service writer in a Triumph/ Ducati shop. It used to be the most enjoyable part of my day selling a new model to someone who thought that we made thousands of dollars on bikes. One of my most memorable lines was with a gentleman who wanted my "best cash price" on a very low-priced machine. I looked at him and asked, if the last time he was at the grocery store, when he got to the checkout did he ask for the "best cash price" on the gallon of milk he had grabbed. He responded that no he did not, but that it wasn't the same thing, as buying a bike. I agreed with him, the logic being that he needed the milk, but the bike was not a necessity. It was a desire. Do you think you paid exactly the cost of that gallon of milk, or was there a margin of profit in that price? If a milk farmer doesn't make a profit, then that farmer will go out of business. My "best cash price" is the manufacturer's suggested retail price, MSRP, plus sales tax, freight and prep, and dealer doc fee. The dealership doesn't set the price, the manufacturer does. Triumph has some great rebates and some good financing offers, provided you have good credit. In today's financial environment, it's good to have at least 10% down. Good luck with your buying experience!
I got my 12 for $10k OTD back in August. It took me 6 hours to get them to drop to my desired price from $13k... I told them I knew it was the last one on the floor and they were getting 13's soon. I told them I wanted the 12 and I wanted it for $10, otherwise they could sell it to someone else. Sure, it's a desire, not a need, which is why the buyer has the power to get a lower price. Can you imagine how much dealers could make if people NEEDED motorcycles :p
 
#4 · (Edited)
when i bought my brand new '12 in August, i searched the local forums for OTD pricing. got a grip on what it would be and went to my local dealer (only place with the color/model i wanted on the floor), there's 3 within about 50miles of me.

i asked for a cash price & told them i knew what they had sold in the past and they gave me the same offer. so i took it. :nod:

R model black/gold 10,500 OTD but that's in SoCal which is higher than the rest of the states.
 
#6 ·
Then why can you haggle the price of a brand new car and not a motorcycle?

A guy who I went to high school with is the salesman at one of the triumph dealers,he told me they would give me the best price in town,most likely waive the freight fee.
 
#9 ·
Then why can you haggle the price of a brand new car and not a motorcycle?

A guy who I went to high school with is the salesman at one of the triumph dealers,he told me they would give me the best price in town,most likely waive the freight fee.
Triumphs arnt exactly like a honda civic where there are tons of them all over to haggle with. The dealer I got my bike from only had this one for 7 months, and could not get another one in because of demand or something overseas and whatever export policy's Triumph has with the USA. Not beliving them i went back 5 months later and they did not have any street triples in at all. 8 months later they got in 1 STR and thats it. Once they sell its a while before more come in for some dealers. There was no haggling when I got mine. I wanted it, I said I want it now and that was it. If I waited someone else would of bought it and I would not have the beautiful machine I have today.
 
#7 ·
There is little to know chance of haggling with the preferred Triumph dealer in my area, and I doubt the other 2 guys would budge on this bike. The Street Triple sell well and in general most dealers our out of them by October. Many people buy them as per-delivery. You may get them to reduce their fees, or through in an extended warranty or tire warranty of some kind. If it is a left over or demo you can often save few bucks. The dealer near me gives 6 free services visits, on all labor, not parts regardless of the amount of labor for each visit.
 
#8 ·
Motocycle profits are thin and based on the number of units they sell (low volume) they can't just give them away.

All said, I saw my 12 STR advertised at 8495 and jumped on it... that was with NO dealer fees. They are high volume however and were making room for two more before getting 13's..

Do what you can and ride!!!
 
#11 ·
I'm not saying...

that you shouldn't haggle dude, it's a free Country. I'm just saying that it's a little unrealistic to do it with a 2013 model that is being heralded better than the previous generation, and also happens to be the most successful bike the company produces. The Street Triple is going to sell. We've sold three in a week. Full price. If you're at a bigger dealership, they may be more motivated to move a bike. Most European bike shops are small, and depend on maximum profit, just to keep the doors open. I try and look at everything from the consumer angle, because I'm a consumer. Motorsports is alot different than the car business, that should be obvious when you walk onto a car lot versus a moto shop. We are all enthusiasts in the end, and if we want to continue enjoying time spent kicking tires and bs'ing with the bike shop dudes, they have to stay in business. It's reality. Good luck though, for real dude. The Street Triple is well worth the money, as it is one of the few bikes that will hold value, as it is very sought after, and most on here know, there will be a time when you won't be able to get one. You can't go wrong with the Street Triple.
 
#13 ·
There are two dealers in western pa, one is smaller that sells Ducati,BMW,Vespa and Triumph the other dealer will be handling Triumph this spring also sells Honda, Kawasaki, Can-Am, Aprilia, Vespa and Piaggio, and word is there going to get a bigger building.

While in the building my eye was straying at a Tuono and the Honda cb1000r,but I have always wanted a Triumph so thats what im getting.
 
#15 ·
Just bought a 2013 triple, 8,950 base + setup & fees + taxes and it was 11k otd. I'd have tried to haggle but it was their last white 675 and there was another customer there who arrived an hour later and wanted it. He settled for a black one and the dealer got full price for both :(

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#18 · (Edited)
I got my 2012 brand new and had it shipped from the warehouse (had to wait a month or so). That was in May 2012.

I paid under MSRP by about $200. I got $100 off my new pipes with free install, free bottle of chain lube, plus I got the fly screen, bellypan, radiator cowl deal for free (Triumph offer). All installed for free. Oh, and the 500 mile service. I didn't pay freight or processing fees.

I think I got a couple other discounts, freebies, but I can't remember.

If you can't work a deal on the MSRP, try to work a deal on all the things you KNOW you'll be buying in the next 2 years anyway. Free bottle of oil, chain cleaner/lube, 50% off Rizoma turn signals... whatever.

Just walk around the accessories counter and see how many $15 items you can include in the deal. Can't hurt to ask. Just don't be insulting and overdo it.
 
#19 ·
I paid list on my 2012 in February of last year, put 20% down and ended up spending $2k additional on an extended warranty to get one point off my interest rate and then canceled the warranty the next month, after the prorating I lost like $75 from the $2k but the rest was deducted from my financed amount. Well worth the extra 1% of interest.

But everyone is right, there is enough demand for these bikes that most dealers won't budge as someone else will walk in later and buy it. They don't rot on the showroom like some bikes.

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#20 ·
The best time to buy a bike is when the new model years are coming out, and the bike they have sitting on the floor is about to turn a year old. Also, for the best price search the web. Web prices are usually pretty much just MSRP and don't include all the other setup/destination fees. Often times the salesman on the floor will not be able to match prices listed on the web, and often they don't even know what their web sales/marketing team is up to.

And as others said, many people are anticipating and wanting the 2013's. They're few and far between dealerships right now, and they will probably laugh when you try to get them down on price b/c they know someone else will be walking in shortly to pick it up for full price.
 
#21 · (Edited)
resurrecting OTD price info -- thanks in advance

Hi all,
I used to ride motorcycle as main transport for 5 years. Got a big accident and stopped riding. Been in a cage since! Recently decided to go back to riding. Got thru MSF course and endorsement. After researching which bike I would get for the past 2 months and test riding 8 bikes, I decided on the STR.

I have a decision to make and your input will be appreciated:

I have heard that the 2014 STRs are coming out soon. Some posters have gotten it or pre-ordered it. I am quite sure the 2014 will be selling at MSRP ++, ending up around $12k OTD.

What would be a good OTD price for the leftover 2013 models?

I put an offer of $10k OTD for a 2013 STR to a local dealer which only has one left, but no dice. (tax rate is 9.5% here in Seattle area, btw). I think it's a fair offer, the dealer doesn't think so. I wouldn't want to pay too close to the 2014 price since it'll be available locally soon.

Please share your thoughts.. Thanks!!
 
#22 ·
Hi all,
I used to ride motorcycle as main transport for 5 years. Got a big accident and stopped riding. Been in a cage since! Recently decided to go back to riding. Got thru MSF course and endorsement. After researching which bike I would get for the past 2 months and test riding 8 bikes, I decided on the STR.

I have a decision to make and your input will be appreciated:

I have heard that the 2014 STRs are coming out soon. Some posters have gotten it or pre-ordered it. I am quite sure the 2014 will be selling at MSRP ++, ending up around $12k OTD.

What would be a good OTD price for the leftover 2013 models?

I put an offer of $10k OTD for a 2013 STR to a local dealer which only has one left, but no dice. (tax rate is 9.5% here in Seattle area, btw). I think it's a fair offer, the dealer doesn't think so. I wouldn't want to pay too close to the 2014 price since it'll be available locally soon.

Please share your thoughts.. Thanks!!
If you're looking for a good deal, a Street Triple R probably isn't the bike for you. That's not to say that it's impossible, but they go fast and people tend to hold onto them because they're such an awesome bike. They don't have the bling factor that fully-faired bike like a Daytona has where a 20-something buys it with no experience, scares the poop out of himself, never rides it and then sells at a loss or with extreme depreciation on it. Street Triple owners tend to know what they want. Used prices are close enough to new MSRP prices that dealers know they'll get MSRP for the bike. If you're not willing to pay, the next guy will. We're not talking about a GSXR or some other cookie-cutter Asian bike with 50,000 units sitting around in 10,000 dealerships along with another 50,000 in the used market. If you want the bike, just buy it. This is the only vehicle I've ever paid even close to MSRP, but the dealer had to go from Pittsburgh, PA to New Jersey to find one that another dealer would let go of for me. Just make sure the fees are legit (no insane doc fees and such) and ask for some discounts on service, parts and maybe gear if you intend to buy those. The time you waste trying to drag down the price is time you're not out riding your new Street Triple. :coolgleamA:

If you just wanted a regular Street Triple, you could probably get a much better deal, but you'd be missing out on a lot to save a small pile of dead presidents and you'd have to put way more back into the bike over time to get it to where the STR is.
 
#25 · (Edited)
No pre-order on the 2014 at all 3 dealers in my area. A couple dealers put me on waiting list #1 for the 2014... Only one asks for $500 pre-order deposit, to which I replied .. "if you can tell me what date you're getting it, I will put the $500 down". And they balk.

I am asking what's a reasonable price to pay for an in-stock 2013, knowing that people are starting to get 2014?

If you just bought a 2013 at MSRP, I got it - you think it's reasonable to pay full price.
 
#26 ·
No pre-order on the 2014 at all 3 dealers in my area. A couple dealers put me on waiting list #1 for the 2014... Only one asks for $500 pre-order deposit, to which I replied .. "if you can tell me what date you're getting it, I will put the $500 down". And they balk.

I am asking what's a reasonable price to pay for an in-stock 2013, knowing that people are starting to get 2014?

If you just bought a 2013 at MSRP, I got it - you think it's reasonable to pay full price.
It's totally situational. It doesn't matter what I paid, I'm not in your state and I'm not in your situaiton. I paid MSRP for the bike, but the dealer paid for it to be shipped from New Jersey plus I got the chin spoiler and bikini fairing at dealer cost and the fees were much lower than other dealers usually charge. I was willing to pay that much because of there are only three dealers within 150 miles of me; 1 wouldn't even bother looking for a 2013. The other has a bad reputation and I won't deal with them. The third found me a bike in 2 days and offered to get it for me. They gave me a fair deal on my trade-in (not great, but reasonable). I wasn't willing to wait for the 2014's and it wouldn't have helped me seeing as there were no 2013 R's anywhere near me.

Had they had the bike in stock and had other dealers in my area had some on the floor too, that would have changed my negotiating power, but only insofar as the dealer was motivated to sell. I think the R model is worth every penny of MSRP, it's one of the few bikes out right now that I would say that about. If you get a better deal, that's awesome. But if you're willing to pay MSRP for a 14, I don't see why you wouldn't pay that for a 2013, it's the exact same bike. People aren't getting 2014's yet. Now, when the 2014's do ship, if your area dealers all have 2013's sitting around, then I'm sure at least one of them will be more willing to deal. As it stands right now, it doesn't sound like they are or they would have given you a counter offer. If they did, I must've missed it.

Anyway, good luck getting a good deal on your next bike.
 
#34 ·
2014 ST3-R

I just picked up my 2014 triple r for 10,650 OTD in N.C. = MSRP + 3% sales tax + tag + title + about 200 delivery fee. The dealers in my area don't have any 2013's left in stock. Triumph sent my two dealers a couple of 2014's the beginning of August, and I was told they will not get anymore 2014's until about October. I would probably only be concerned about getting a discount on the 2013 if I thought I would be selling it in the next 2 years, otherwise after 5 or 6 years the book value difference in the 2013 vs. the 2014 will probably only be a few hundred dollars...
 
#35 ·
I just picked up my 2014 triple r for 10,650 OTD in N.C. = MSRP + 3% sales tax + tag + title + about 200 delivery fee. The dealers in my area don't have any 2013's left in stock. Triumph sent my two dealers a couple of 2014's the beginning of August, and I was told they will not get anymore 2014's until about October. I would probably only be concerned about getting a discount on the 2013 if I thought I would be selling it in the next 2 years, otherwise after 5 or 6 years the book value difference in the 2013 vs. the 2014 will probably only be a few hundred dollars...
Thanks for the input... 3% tax and $200 delivery are GREAT. Over here, it's 9.5% tax and $800 delivery fee ... :doh:
I looked into Kelley Blue Book for price diff on 2008 and 2009, it was about $500.

.... still considering ... :)
 
#39 · (Edited)
I will be buying a 2013 Street Triple R once spring arrives, now the price on all the websites say 9999, now is there any haggle room with this price with it being a newer model? Should I try to talk the dealer down on the price or just ask for accessories instead?

I currently have 1 dealer in my area but in march/april another dealer will be selling triumph so im thinking they are really going to try and get the business from the other dealer so things could end up being rather competitive.
I bought the 2013 Triumph Street Triple R. I did research on the bike from couple dealers and gauge the price around $12,500 OTD, I talk to a friend of mind and he told me to offer $1000 below the offer price and tell the sale man that others local offered was at $11,300 OTD and you want a better deal, I want at $11k, I told the salesman I'm going to walk as I can save money for couple of month to pay cash for $11k, he went back and forth to his manager for about 4th time his manager coming out to convince me, still I stuck to my line, the manager went back to the office I told the salesman I'm going to walk away as it getting late, he went back to his manager again for the 5th time and finally the salesman agreed to that then as we goes to finance they told me I'm not qualified for the factory offer rate they have to buy the rate for me so bring the price back to $11,300. I was able to haggle from $12,830.00 down to $11,300 OTD with 4.75%APR $0 down full finance, then I closed the deals I demanded Hero Rebate for Military and get another $350 rebate for 2013 Street Triple R after 2 months so my final OTD was $10,950 (including Freight, Preps, Tax, Registration and Tag). I hope this is the best deals I can get for the bike I bought it in June 2013 from Bert's Mega Mall in Azusa, CA