You seem angry. :grouphug:

 

wtf 50? If I try really hard I can get 43

 

I bet his display is set to Imperial Gallons............


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I bet his display is set to Imperial Gallons............

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Probably this.

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I have a '13 and wouldn't even dream of going anywhere close to 200 between fill ups. Here in Chicago traffic I average 35-37 mpg.

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Trying to improve MPG on a STR or any sportbike is like trying to count a vehicle with a v8 MPG to achieve a prius MPG.

Its a sportsbike.:righthere:

 

Trying to improve MPG on a STR or any sportbike is like trying to count a vehicle with a v8 MPG to achieve a prius MPG.

Its a sportsbike.:righthere:

Some of us use our bikes for commuting as well as fun roads blasting. I want to use as little fuel/tire wear as possible while commuting and save it for the good stuff.

 

the only way to figure out your real mpgs is the actually maount you put in vs the trip odometer; there is no way you're getting over 200 miles in 1 tank

 

Why not? I've done it. At 45mpg and 4.5 gallons on a fill. Yes you can put that much in. You can go over 200 miles. At lease that was the case when my bike was stock.

 

That's assuming one would run the bike bone dry whilst on highway. Any sane person will get to agas station when the light comes on; which would theoretically not allow you to deplete the tank. So even @ 45 mpg, 4 gallons =/= 200 mpg.

 

I actually fill up 2 gals max and usually always 1. Exceptions are if I'm doing a long commute. I do the same with my car (not same gallons but never full) not for your technical mpg reason

This makes no sense to me. From an emergency preparedness level you're actually never supposed to have less than a half tank at any time, and from a maintenance level, you're begging to have rust start to form in the tank (assuming your car has a steel tank).

 

This makes no sense to me. From an emergency preparedness level you're actually never supposed to have less than a half tank at any time, and from a maintenance level, you're begging to have rust start to form in the tank (assuming your car has a steel tank).

Plastic, and I'm never more than 4 blocks from a gas station. Living in a city, I can never not find or not be able to obtain.

 

lol. I get it. I work 20 miles away. I have not ridden to work yet. I just hate squaring off my tires. plus I like having coffee while sitting in traffic in the morning. if only my commute involves twisties.

 

Not sure why there is no much mpg difference between bikes.

I've had my STR since 09 and average anything from 50-54mpg. Has since day one and now after 20 000 miles on the clock still do. I get 150 miles before reserve kicks in/light comes on. I have a set of under seat Arrows and Arrow mapping.

Didn't ride it like I stole is when I was breaking the engine in but didn't keep 100% to the book either.

I've been away the past weekend so will check my mpg when I get home and see what the last few tanks gave me.

 

Not sure why there is no much mpg difference between bikes.

I've had my STR since 09 and average anything from 50-54mpg. Has since day one and now after 20 000 miles on the clock still do. I get 150 miles before reserve kicks in/light comes on. I have a set of under seat Arrows and Arrow mapping.

Didn't ride it like I stole is when I was breaking the engine in but didn't keep 100% to the book either.

I've been away the past weekend so will check my mpg when I get home and see what the last few tanks gave me.

It likely all comes down to break-in. Historically, the following happens on bikes:

-A steady, slow break-in (as recommended by Triumph) generally yields a bike that burns less oil and does better on fuel consumption. The motor, historically, lasts longer with less mechanical issues (hence why Triumph and other manufacturers recommend the same break-in procedure).

-A fast and hard break-in historically yields a bike that is faster overall but consumes more oil and fuel. These bikes tend to live a shorter life, mechanically. How much shorter is open to debate and I haven't been able to find anything definitive in my research.

There are certainly two schools of thought to the break-in and I don't think either one is necessarily wrong. You simply get different results. I tend to follow what the manufacturer recommends as they've put the time into the R&D and should therefore know best.

 

Sane? Not me. The bike has a gallon and a half when that light comes on. Plenty of extra time to get fuel.

 

Okay, let's say that's the case. Your personal 45 mpg still does not exceed over 200 unless you literally ran it dry. And you'd be above 200 by 2 miles if we're getting technical.

I also am not sure if you're using gallons filled vs trip meter. The mpg indicator on the gauge is nothing but bullshit. I am not getting 40-50 mpgs because every gallon yields me 25-35 actual miles

 

Well, the bike is in having it's "First Service" completed. Oil & Filter + a variety of bolts checked, brake fluid, coolant & Triumph recommended services. So, I can't run down & check to see if I'm set on Imperial Gallons! But, I will check that, just in case I'm improperly set to it. Gotta admit, I'll be a little bummed out if it is set wrong, I kinda like getting 50+ MPG- on a sportbike!

To the poster who thought I was angry- nope! Just very surprised & a little happy, actually. Anticipating the flamers who feel obligated to post negative comments, suggesting that I'm trying to hypermile on a sportsbike, when, I was exceptionally clear in the OP that mileage was not important at purchase- nor, afterwards. Why do some people have to make negative & stupid comments that disparage the OP for no reason? What value does that add to the forum, or, the thread? Annoying, frustrating, and- like people who don't use the 'search' function- it makes me angry!

Also, I use the fill to the top, reset Trip A & B, ride til @ 1/2 tank & re-fill to the top method of measuring. I prefer a full tank -if possible- when I put the bike away: for the night, or, a few days. My Hyosung GV650 has a few 'from the factory' tank issues ad internal rusting is 1 of them. So, a full tank prevents condensation. An ounce of prevention (and, I HATE using Kreem!) So, I'm not using the 'display' information to determine MPG over distance. But, now that it's been mentioned, I could compare actual MPG to what the bike is reporting as combined MPG, to see how accurate it is.

I did notice that the '13+ models did report better mileage on www.fuelly.com, but, I felt that 50+ MPG, on average- was exceptional, and, required sharing with the forum. (Hmmm, it smells like Imperial Gallons to me though, +7 MPG would be about right...) I'll go through the set up menu & make sure that it is set to US gallons when I get the bike back this afternoon. I've found the menu & set up easy to work with when stopped. Have had difficulty changing displayed information when riding though- almost like the 'B' button is stuck or something? Wierd, but, it could just be a safety thing- trying to prevent riders from scrolling through the trip meter readings while riding... But, when stopped, it is intuitive and easy. I have chaanged the blue LED shift lights a variety of times, and, easy-peasy, lemon squeezy.

Hey, it would be awesome if I was getting 50+ MPG and riding the heck out of it, though! Just another superbike, exhibiting additional superbike skillz! Ha

Dave

 

I agree but, by and large, this is the accepted way of thinking in hours of research. I personally buy into the logic of taking the revs up to do exactly what you mentioned, and that is to properly seat the rings. That being said, I have historically babied my bikes (and cars for that matter) but greatly varied the RPMs during the break-in. I have gone to lengths of climbing hills to put more work on the motor without overly exceeding the RPM limits set by the manufacturer. I have seen great results with both MPG and with no oil consumption. I have to agree, however, that my motors seem slower than others. In the end, I'm not trying to turn this into a debate on break-in, but was merely suggesting it as one possible reason for such disparity in performance from one bike to the next.

Dave, if the Triumph tech has given you such sound advice and you trust it, then you're certainly doing the right thing. I have no qualms about how you broke your machine in. You've mentioned elsewhere that the additive you use has netted you great results in the past. Maybe that is playing into the performance you're seeing as well in terms of MPGs. Lastly, let the digs by posters roll off. They happen all over this place. It's just for fun.

 

Well, for what it's worth- I was OVER 700 miles by the time I was told to visit redline, use the throttle, etc... and, I had been even more conservative than Triumph for the 1st 500. I used 8,500 RPM's as my max for the 1st 300 miles, then 9,500, which I held until almost 700 miles, and, THEN I started going to redline, using the throttle more aggressively, etc... So, really, last 300 miles got the full work out!

I, like Decipher, 'break in' using recommeded guidelines, and, I tend to keep vehicles for a long time as well. So, when given the green light, it was more reflective of the very end of the Triumph break in schedule. Also, I did NOT want to have my oil chaged and THEN go to the redline, use full throttle and have pieces floating in my oil for the next 6,000 miles! Hopefully, I was cautious enough in the beginning, "Doing the right thing" long enough, for me to complete a proper break in... It was really nice for the owner of the store to give me permission to go wild though. I was ready to listen to anything that freed me up to go crazy, knowwhatimean?

But, either way- it's done. I was very close to 1,000 miles (970) when I dropped the bike off this early morning, and, the oil is being changed as we speak. At 700 miles, I checked the oil, and, it was low- about 3/4ths of a quart low! I added 10W-40 Castrol full synthetic motor oil (not MC specific though) because it was available locally, and, I didn't want to ride with the oil so low. Not sure if that's 'normal' or not, but, it's what happened to me...

Dave

 

I only calculate using actual miles. By the way the trip isn't always accurate either.

Whatever you want to believe I've seen 210 miles on the trip when filling before and never got better then 45mpg. Also no it wasn't dry. The fuel pump was sti mostly covered. The tank is bigger then you think. The fuel light comes on way way early.

 

I only calculate using actual miles. By the way the trip isn't always accurate either.

Technically, the odometer isn't accurate due to the factory error. However, wouldn't the trip counter be the same accuracy as the odometer? They're both part of the same instrument panel circuitry, so how is one calibrated more, or less, accurate than the other?

 

Well between my trip meter and my gps miles to certain places, it's been spot on.

I usually see 1/3 if not more of the fuel pump when the light is on when I pop the lid and look in. I don't know how much fuel is left but from my mpgs, I'd probably have 15 or less miles before I'm finished.

 

since when is there a 1.5 gallons left when the light goes on??

 

Any bike with EFI will have a silly realm of " unusable" fuel. I want to say in the Street it's like .5 gal. The light should pop on with 1.5 left. Normally depending on your average mpg to range about 30-35 miles. Mine pops on exactly after 3gallons is used. 120-130 miles. 40-45mpg really but on the computer it says maybe 50s. A little generous.

I guess I can rebut that on my last post.

 

I must have a lemon. I get about 210KM before the gas light comes on. Not miles... KMs. Been that way since day one. 15000km later still exactly the same. For anyone complaining about their 30-40 mpg... look at mine then feel good about yours. /rantoff

 

I went and changed my thing to 3. It was on 2 and I was showing 50-60 mpg. I was just ignoring it as I knew it was shit.

 

I've gotten 55-57mpg on mine with the stock pipe and map. The TORs and map dropped it to maybe 50. 45-50 if I ride it like a raped ape. It's traffic stop and go crap that'll kill my mileage. The speedo is pretty accurate on mine. At least that's what the speedo on my iPhone and GPS says... Can't say that for my Guzzi in the least.

I find it weird how this topic always pops up on the forums around this time of year.

 

I checked the 'settings' and everything was set to US measurements. Heck, even if was switched by the dealership to US today, while they were installing some OEM goodies & performing the expensive "First Service" @ 9 73miles, that would not change my MPG stats a bit. Since I have been using the full tank to full tank measurements- and, only taking the MILES off of the bike, my MPG's are unaffected by Imperial Gallons.

Let's see: We've touched the following topics

1) Break-in methods, approaches & potential impacts.
2) MPG's Tank reading empty vs. really empty.
3) The yellow fuel warning light timing: 0.9 gallons or 1.5 gallons.

I'm sure that I forgot a few topics covered, but, I'm still averaging 48+ MPG since new (-31 miles prior to 1st fill-up), which includes the engine break in period, where surfaces are mating, throttle is used modestly & oil burns off faster than on a well broke in engine. I expected to get 38.5 MPG or less, based on the fact that I can't stay out of the throttle, and heck, I like spending less on gas! It's a total bonus on an outstanding bike, whose limits I may never realistically approach!

Don't laugh, but, I just got caught in a tornado warning- in NH?- got soaked to the bone, almost blown off the road, struck by lightning and had to hide under an overpass for about 15 minutes. Of course, this was after I picked up the bike, all cleaned up, fresh oil, nicely adjusted chain & lubed as well...I topped off, just in case water got into the tank...and, got 46MPG. My worst yet, at 983 miles, but mostly highway miles...???

 

That's part of being an engineer. Having to be technically correct when it makes no difference in practice.

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That's part of being an engineer. Having to be technically correct when it makes no difference in practice.

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Technically correct; the best kind of correct. :thumbup:

 

I'm at 25-30 ...

09 ST3R
09 N250R

 

Gotta wrap this thread up now, too! So, my measurements, and, my technique is accurate @ I'm still averaging 48.5 miles per gallon. My bestest: 52.3, my worstest: 45.6 MPG, and I suspect that it will rise to 50 MPG over the rest of summer, whether I try to do things or not. Very happy with 48.5 and will ot be surprised to see 50 MPG as my baseline within a month.

Good news: I received my Arai Vector II today, in Diamond Grey, which is actually not very close to matte graphite- but, who cares! It looks awesome, it fits awesome, and, other than a few oddball whistles that I get out of it- it's very comfortable & quiet to boot! I figure that it alone is good for +2 HP, and, at least 3MPG due to reduced aerodynamic drag from the HJC SY-MAX-III, which looks like a cinder block when compared side by side. Together with the new, lightweight, summer leather jacket, I could average 60 MPG, and, have occasional fills in the mid 70 MPG range! But, was this very basic jacket has very few seams, only (2) side pockets & virtually nothing else to interrupt airflow, and, it's fitted to boot. Between the jacket & helmet, 110 MPH is really quiet- a nice surprise & greatly appreciated by me, so, I can focus on the road and where police might be hiding.

I'm really not sure when the engine will be really bedded in completely, but, I'm addicted to the sound of it at any RPM when I load the throttle up- it's an adreneline shot. But, banging the throttle at anything over 6,000 RPM requires commitment. I love it, and, the rush + the quickshifter and I'm still not 100% sure if I can see far enough ahead to stay @ WOT into 6th- most of the time. But, I can't stop doing it either? Needless to say, I have almost recieved impressions of Chevrolet pressed into my forehead more than once. But, this is the biggest problem I've experienced with the bike so far, everything else has been outstanding!

Update: My Low Fuel Warning Light went on yesterday @ 152.6 miles, while driving on a level road at steady speed. A gas station was a mere 200 yards ahead, so, I filled it up to find out how much fuel is left in the tank when the light comes on! I was able to get 3.275 gallons into my tank, which brought the level up to the 'high side' lip just being covered (the level I always fill too). If the tank truly holds 4.59659 gallons (17.4 liters), the light went on with 1.32159 gallons from empty, or, almost EXACTLY 5 liters (5.00276 liters). Although the manual states that the light comes on @ 0.92 gallons (3.5 liters), the closeness to 5 liters is pretty amazing, and, probably not coincidental. Based on my average fuel economy, I could have ridden an additional 65 miles- that's almost too much warning.

 

OK- this thread is wrapped, but, here is an update for this 2014 StripleR. Totoal of 1,824 miles logged on the engine. Delivered 7/1/14.

Low Fuel Warning Light comes on @ 160.6 miles logged (3x average)
Tank takes: 3.30 Gallons on average, leaving 1.3 Gallons as reserve.
Average MPG is rising, currently 49.4 lifetime, 50 MPG last 10 fills.

Riding it like it's rented, mostly- unless I'm on the highway (30%), when I draft a little to reduce buffetting mostly, but, not too close cuz - it just isn't worth it! 40% is on high speed secondary roads, rural routes with speed limits of 45-55, occasional lights- good MPG roads if you catch the lights- of course. 30% on back road twisties, revs always over 6,000, using blue lights to quick shift as needed...Had oil changed @ 953 miles, still very clean, no burning, leaking, or, drop in level since change? (needed 3/4 of a quart @ 700 miles...) Adjusted tires pressures @ 1,500 miles- up to 34F/42R per Owner's Manual & reading several threads. It was much lower 28F/34R prior to cold reset. Ride is not harsh, but, balance in curves is more noticeable? OEM Corsa Rossa's still look good, no leveling yet and pretty low wear...

Still think this is surprising, as most owners get 45 or less, commuting or not, regardless of year, miles on engine, state of tune...

 

Most Street owners have a pre-update model. Triumph specifically modified the new model to get better fuel mileage and 50mpg was the target I am aware of.