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#1 ·
First of all, Hi. I'm new. I'll make a formal introduction when I actually own Triumph. For now, I'm still shopping around, trying to find the perfect one. So first some questions:

FRAME SLIDERS
I do'nt like the looks, it breaks up the clean lines. I know the importance of them. So my question is about instillation and removal. What does it take for them to be installed? Does something have to be drilled? It looks like some sliders require drilling the fairing, maybe even the hard metal engine components. For me that's a big NO-NO because it's essentially damaging the bike right?
How about removal? It looks like it's not too easy to remove sliders. After removal, will there be evidence that sliders were once installed? Like, are there visible HOLES? I wouldn't like that. But if sliders can be removed making the bike exactly stock again, then I can consider buying a bike with sliders already installed.

R/R
I know about the regulator/rectifier problem. After installing a new or or aftermarket one, does that last forever? Or are you all just counting the days until you have to replace it again? Has anyone relocated the R/R so it can cool off easier?

1ST v 2ND GEN
Obviously the 2006-2008 daytonas are going to be slightly more affordable, but is it generally worth it? I'm assuming the major difference is more problems with the older gen. Also, I see the the seat height is slightly lower on the old gen, which would be a little more comfortable for me. Can anyone give their opinion here?

Thanks All
 
#2 ·
FRAME SLIDERS
I do'nt like the looks, it breaks up the clean lines. I know the importance of them. So my question is about instillation and removal. What does it take for them to be installed? Does something have to be drilled? It looks like some sliders require drilling the fairing, maybe even the hard metal engine components. For me that's a big NO-NO because it's essentially damaging the bike right?
How about removal? It looks like it's not too easy to remove sliders. After removal, will there be evidence that sliders were once installed? Like, are there visible HOLES? I wouldn't like that. But if sliders can be removed making the bike exactly stock again, then I can consider buying a bike with sliders already installed.
I installed the GB Racing Full Protection kit. No drilling at all. Although front frame bolts are a tad difficult to deal with getting in and out. If you keep all bolts it can all easily be removed without any indication it was there.

R/R
I know about the regulator/rectifier problem. After installing a new or or aftermarket one, does that last forever? Or are you all just counting the days until you have to replace it again? Has anyone relocated the R/R so it can cool off easier?
I've never heard of anyone who replaced their R/R on here having to replace it again, but I could be wrong. There's always a minority.

1ST v 2ND GEN
Obviously the 2006-2008 daytonas are going to be slightly more affordable, but is it generally worth it? I'm assuming the major difference is more problems with the older gen. Also, I see the the seat height is slightly lower on the old gen, which would be a little more comfortable for me. Can anyone give their opinion here?
I don't know if any major problems between the 1st and 2nd GEN. You can easily look up the mechanical differences on Wikipedia though. You can decide if the differences are worth it.
 
#3 ·
Buy an 09+.

The frame sliders are not permanent, and only certain brands (like woodcraft) droll through the fairing.

The R/R is not a guaranteed failure. It also happens to every brand of bike, not just the Triumph.
 
#4 ·
here is a link to riders discount who sells the bundle and is a big forum vendor. Its a great value for the cash. the sliders bolt onto 2 places on the frame, are no cut and are not to long so look good on the bike. And worst case you can remove one bolt in the middle of the slider, and the slider is off the bike but the mounting hardware still in place. IE say you want frame slider free pictures. Also note My 675R is a shared bike between me and the GF and she is picky about the look of it. And the GB bundle got her stamp of approval if that helps you.

GB Racing Motorcycle Protection Bundle Daytona 675 - Triumph675.Net Forums

as for R/R any one replaced with a good one I have never heard of issues and been searching up details about this myself. And not al stock R/R die either.

the 2nd gen had a bunch of fixes and such. Ie if you can get the newer one but if you had a 1st gen at a good price there is nothing wrong with it overall.
 
#5 ·
A good set of frame sliders for this bike will not necessarily require any cutting of the fairings. Single-point installation sliders (which require drilling) are technically the best for crash integrity, but GSG, Sato, and Rizoma all make some very good two-point installation sliders that use a metal beam mounted to the frame at two points- not cutting or drilling of any kind, just bolt it up to the existing frame bolt locations and the slider sticks out of the existing hole in the fairing: http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=3721

It's a really easy job, and easy to reverse. As for looks, well, I don't think frame sliders look that bad but it isn't about looks, it's about protection. They're worth it.

I can't speak for exactly how long a replacement R/R will last, except that it will last a lot longer than the old one. The benefit doesn't stop there though; with an OEM R/R you run the risk of frying your battery and your ECU when the old one inevitably goes.

I've never ridden a 2nd-gen, but the consensus seems to be that most of the upgrades aren't significant enough to notice when not operating at the limit. If you're a street rider or this is your first sport bike, you definitely won't be able to take advantage of the 3 hp or the slightly more adjustable suspension. And as for problems, I think just about all of the problems people have experienced with the 1st gen have also shown up on the 2nd gen. The cam chain tensioner problem got fixed in 2010 I think, but that's also a very cheap and easy fix on the 1st gen. The condition of the individual bike you're looking at matters more than if it is a 1st or 2nd gen
 
#9 · (Edited)
Single-point installation sliders (which require drilling) are technically the best for crash integrity,

It's a really easy job, and easy to reverse. As for looks, well, I don't think frame sliders look that bad but it isn't about looks, it's about protection. They're worth it.
say what? how are single point sliders better? Dual point are clearly better as they distribute the shock over a wider area. single point sliders depending where they mount can punch a hole in the engine case. they are more likely to snap.

now the second paragraph is spot on.

, i don't plan on dropping the bike..
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Do you think anyone "plans" on dropping the bike? I have a buddy (who i strongly encouraged to get sliders but he said the same thing. ah, im safe, i dont plan on dropping it. He always backs his bike into the parking spot at his apartment, he was riding and got caught in some rain, rushed home and while backing it in, his foot slipped on the oily spot in the parking spot and down he went. It rashed the whole side of his bike, bar end, lever, mirror and swingarm too i think.

I havent really posted about my "incident" but a few weeks ago i was taking my girl for a ride. i was getting the bike turned around in the driveway and already had my earplugs in. when i kicked the stand down, i guess it didnt catch or lock all the way down and was either in the partial down position or popped back up, as i dismounted to go inside and get her, she went down. i got a tiny bit of rash on the mirror. thats it. IF i hadnt had sliders.... well, here is what got rashed: front fork slider, gb stator cover slider, frame slider and rear spool slider. pretty much the entire side of the bike would have been hit. i dont know offhand what that would have cost but im guessing quite a bit.

Anyhow, just my two cents, do what you want and enjoy your new bike!
 
#6 ·
great replies. thanks a lot. it looks like i'm just not going to worry about sliders or R/R. i should be able to tell whether the bike was drilled or not. it's just, i don't plan on dropping the bike. that's what worked with my first bike. and they say everybody drops sometime, and i dropped someone else's bike, so i guess i got that out of the way.
 
#8 ·
great replies. thanks a lot. it looks like i'm just not going to worry about sliders or R/R. i should be able to tell whether the bike was drilled or not. it's just, i don't plan on dropping the bike. that's what worked with my first bike. and they say everybody drops sometime, and i dropped someone else's bike, so i guess i got that out of the way.
HAHA!!!!!!!!
 
#7 ·
Sliders are a gamble, really.... I have them on, because I really don't feel like having to buy/paint fairings if I drop my bike in the garage or something stupid like that.

For situations of higher speeds, the slider will either do its job, or make the crash worse... It has potential to 'hook' the ground, and cause the bike to flip and get REALLY wrecked. It also has the potential (in a highside) to transmit too much direct force to the frame and/or engine, and cause damage that may not have occured without the sliders.

Take it for what its worth. I use sliders, because if I have a big wreck, my insurance will cover it all regardless of if the sliders caused extra damage.
 
#13 ·
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH.

I am illiterate apparently.

I totally read that as single-point sliders that DON'T require drilling.

Disregard me forever, haha.
 
#14 ·
oh yes, i forgot about woodcrafts. they are very legit but more for a race bike setup IMO. we can all agree, sliders are usually a good thing though. especially those stupid low speed "incidents" that make you say a lot of bad words!
 
#15 ·
forgive me for bringing up an old post,
i'd just like to say that i finally got my bike
not the 09-12 i wanted, but an '07 graphite
i'm happy now

also, since the start of this thread, i found a job at a ducati dealership in MD. so come ride our demo bikes. anyway i decided long ago that i wanted the Daytona 675. i'm pretty picky. my boss and the salesman were urging me to get one of the shop's bikes, but i resisted.

i'm depending on all you guys for accurate and honest information, 'cause it's hard to be found in dealerships (in my experience)
 
#16 ·
i'm depending on all you guys for accurate and honest information, 'cause it's hard to be found in dealerships (in my experience)
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