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#1 ·
With Yamaha introducing the MT-09 does anyone think that Triumph will introduce a Street Triple with a Daytona 675 engine in it?
 
#3 ·
You have to wonder if it makes much sense for Triumph to have two 675 engines. If they want to stay competitive then perhaps or maybe they can rework the 800cc and compete closely with MV and their 800cc Brutale.

I personally would love to see Triumph go head to head with the BMW 800GT.
 
#7 · (Edited)
My thought is Triumph really doesn't want to compete with anyone. They make revisions or enter a new segment and let everyone else then catch up and make comparisons. Triumph does everything well and then some.

I do find their color selection (world-wide) mimicking Triumphs like 'throwing down the gauntlet' but in essence it's a compliment to Triumphs forward thinking when it comes to introducing colors.
 
#11 ·
It would be nice to see a Striple 800 but I don't see it happening soon.

I've been reading reviews on the FZ-09 and it seems a contender. I t
Like the 3 stage ECU. That I'd like to see on the Striple. Other than that anyone whose compared the FZ-09 to a Street Triple R they say the Brit still holds its place as best naked middleweight.
 
#12 ·
I won't get too excited until seeing several comparo's, which will happen. So far the Striple has beat all comers - regardless of engine disadvantages. The designers struck the perfect balance of engine, bike weight, build quality and price without breaking the bank.

The first comparo that comes to mind, was the May 2011 CycleWorld comparo. The Striple handily beat out the Shiver (800cc), the FZ8 (800cc), BMWF800R (800cc) and Ducati Monster 796 (796cc). See a pattern? :whistle:
 
#14 ·
The Striple is a great bike and the world wide sales numbers are proof. The competition won't rest, and it's that competitive drive that Triumph needs to embrace. It is a great bike; could it be better? Sure, but what are you willing to pay, the R version, at $10K you get a lot of bike, a good dealer network, proven reliability, and plenty of after market bits. I don't see any bang for the buck contenders so far, often in motorcycle world le$$ is less bike and more cost doesn't always add up to more bike.
 
#15 ·
I was about to pull the trigger on a FZ 09 but there were a couple of things that made me change my mind and decide to buy the Street R.

-Doesn't have fully adjustable suspension.
-Small gas tank
-Hate digital tachometers
-Didn't love any of the color schemes.
-Review claiming it has a vague front end....could be simple fix but having a vague front end is a confidence killer.
-Reviews claiming of snatchy throttle. I had this issue with my 09 R1. I wound up just keeping it in B mode which made the other modes useless.

I do think that the 850 triple is going to be a fantastic engine though. I'll be curious to ride one when they finally hit the road.
 
#16 ·
Read between the lines and you will see that Yamaha makes no bones about the MT-09 being a budget built commuter bike to replace the ill received FZ8 and the platform for several other models to come. Kind of like what Honda has done with their NT700. It is not meant to be a "sport" bike or hooligan machine. Just a nice well mannered bike with decent handling and real world usable power that will hopefully sell as well as the old FZ6 and help keep Yamaha from heading out to pasture. Hopefully it does just that.

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#19 ·
While I enjoy my Triple, it's hard to ignore the lure of the Yamaha, the price, light weight, decent power, and features, it will sell. Given the fact that most dealers around me deal off the msrp, one sells everything for $350.00 over cost, dealer cost runs 15-20 percent below msrp, lot of bike for the money.
 
#22 ·
It is squarely aimed at the ST3. And with that price point they might have winner in their hands but looking at the spec sheet the quality seems below the Triumph as far as parts goes.
I agree with all of this, except that I don't think it is quite aimed *squarely* at the ST3. Yamaha knows there are a lot of people out there who want Street Triples but can't afford it or are scared of buying a British bike (their loss). So, Yamaha is aiming just *under* the Streety. It won't quite perform like the Streety but it will lure buyers who couldn't otherwise afford to get onto a Triumph. Yamaha is taking advantage of its greater economy of scale to offer 95% of the performance of the Triumph for a good chunk of change less money. And more power to them, as it will keep the competition fresh, but since I can afford the best I'll stick with Triumph :thumbup:
 
#25 ·
I think it looks and sounds ok considering it's a poor mans Striple. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that but I'll be keeping my Trumpy thank you.
I'm learning on an FZ6 at the moment. If that's indicative of Yamaha's build quality and how their bikes handle in general, I'm glad. No ecstatic that I chose Triumph. Yes everyone on this forum is going to be biased but I'd hate to have a peeny fuel tank that the new Yam comes with.
 
#28 ·
My local Yami dealer claims my FZ09 should be here in a couple weeks, and seeing them arrive on the west coast is an encouraging sign. I'm excited, to put it lightly. In fact, I decided to sell the D675 for this.

I've owned a Speed Triple and the Daytona...still have the Tiger 1050 in the garage. I was originally interested in the Street Triple R a few years ago, but the test ride killed it for me. I was coming off a long line of V-twin bikes, and the lack of torque killed it for me. I 'settled' on the Speed Triple, and I'm glad I did. Once the suspension was dialed it, it was amazing. Porky, but amazing.

I'm left thinking the right answer was a naked Daytona 675 with shorter gearing. The lightweight nature of the bike was great - something I'm hoping to recreated with the Yami. Will it be better? I dunno. Calling me a Triumph fan would be an understatement, but I'm far from a fanboi. Yamaha makes great motorcycles and they take a unique engineering perspective with respect to the other Japanese bikes. A few carefully chosen accessories should go a long way in making the FZ truly competitive to the STR...brake lines, suspension work....all for the same price as a STR or less - depending on the fueling situation (fingers crossed), that is. Time will tell.