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You can 'easily' put a new front end on your bike for $600-$700, can you?! How's that, then? My bike is a 2010 standard Street Triple... Plenty of people have said, on this forum and elsewhere, how upgrading to Daytona forks is a good option, but they are hard to find. One guy somewhere mentioned it took him a year to find some. My bike is in really good nick, so I'm not gonna put any old tat on it. A good set of used forks are gonna be around $600, from what I can make out. Can you direct me to some that are way cheaper? Please! Then I'd have to get new calipers ('used' new... you know), new brake lines, most likely, and new master cylinder. Ok, maybe there's an option where I can keep my current master cylinder, but then what's the point? Say I can do all that for an extra $200, we're up to $800. There seem to be more used forks in the US, but I'm in the UK. So add on some shipping... That'll be $900 we're up to now. I have new front suspension, then, which many say will not be a patch on good aftermarket kit. I then have new brakes, also, which may be better than what I have now, but not massively.

I'm not racing, just want to be more comfortable and planted on track days. The brakes on the standard ST are pretty good, no? Ok, I know full well there is better stuff out there, but I think I will gain more with what I have, brake-wise, and really nice suspension. In the future I can get a new front disc, pads, maybe fluid, to make aforementioned brakes a little better. I think I will learn more and enjoy my bike more concentrating on the suspension for the moment. If getting a new front end really was a much cheaper option then I would go for it, but it doesn't appear to me to be the case. I have been looking for stuff, but can't find it! What I do find really isn't that cheap. I've read about people doing the lot for $400 or so. Fair play to them! What do others here think about this? Could that still be done, with a little patience and more diligent searching?

I would love to just spend $600-$700 on this. But if $1000 will give me a lot more I will save up, and wait. My gut at the moment is telling me it will. What would other people here do?

You're dead right, though... Can anyone else here give us some more feedback on the Matris fully adjustable cartridges? Worth it, rather than a Daytona front end?

Cheers, mcarnold :)

Mark

PS Anyone have some 'like new' Matris fully adjustable fork cartridges for a 2010 Street Triple they want to sell me? $600? :grin:
You can find a set on ebay for about 400, 2013+ for about 450-500. MC will cost you about 75, and a set of radial brakes Ive seen from 120-200. It can be done for about 600-700. Brake lines Ive seen on ebay for 25-50 for the set. The biggest thing you have going for you is its not an ABS model. 2013+ with abs goes into a whole new range of issues.

Now I cant say for sure if and how much the matris carts are better than the Daytona forks. I have never ridden a bike with the matris carts before. But I can tell you the STR forks are a lot better than the standard forks and the brakes are also A LOT better than the standard. I really don't think the sinister HH pads will bring the standard calipers up to par with the radial brakes.

Search ebay for Daytona 675 forks, you will see a few sets for pretty cheap.
 
I guess they have gone down some, sweet! When PJ's quoted me the price it was in the high 900 range. Im sure the matris carts are better than the Daytona/str forks but how much Im not sure.
 
UAV, post that review when you can. I'd love to hear your thoughts. And I have all the respect in the world for Orangeman, he has probably forgotten more than I will ever know. Im just wondering if the carts are without the radial brakes are worth the extra costs.
 
You can find a set on ebay for about 400, 2013+ for about 450-500. MC will cost you about 75, and a set of radial brakes Ive seen from 120-200. It can be done for about 600-700. Brake lines Ive seen on ebay for 25-50 for the set. The biggest thing you have going for you is its not an ABS model. 2013+ with abs goes into a whole new range of issues.

Now I cant say for sure if and how much the matris carts are better than the Daytona forks. I have never ridden a bike with the matris carts before. But I can tell you the STR forks are a lot better than the standard forks and the brakes are also A LOT better than the standard. I really don't think the sinister HH pads will bring the standard calipers up to par with the radial brakes.

Search ebay for Daytona 675 forks, you will see a few sets for pretty cheap.
I do hear ya, mcarnold. All these parts definitely seem to be a little cheaper for you guys in US. Land of opportunity! The costs you've detailed above, at the higher end, do amount to about $700. In the grand schemes of things cheaper, yes, but not that much. Especially not to me, when a load of shipping is added on. I'll keep scouring EBay, though... Something may come up. I appreciate what you're saying.

Not saying better pads etc. would match radial brakes at all. What I have could be improved slightly, though. I guess another question is can my ST brakes be upgraded in the future with better MC/calipers? Not radial, no, but better all the same. I'll look into that. Would be nice to have that as an upgrade option in the future. I reckon I could live without it, though.

At the moment I swaying towards having excellent forks and good brakes, rather than really good forks and really good brakes, basically. But, again, you're right, more info on the Matris cartridges would be really useful. Over to you, UAV...

Cheers
 
Keep in mind here, guys, that I already have the R model with radial brakes (calipers and M/C). And since I have compression adjusters the carts I ordered may differ from the standard Street Triple version. In fact, that was the reason I chose Matris' over the offerings from K-Tech and Traxxion. The 2013+ Street Triples (standard and R) have an odd fork cartridge mounting scheme. Instead of having a hole in the bottom of the axle casting for a mounting screw, from what I've gathered there's a spring-loaded support in the inner tube that the cartridge clips onto. Both K-Tech and Traxxion decided to replace this support with one that mates with their cartridges. And in so doing, they block off the chamber in the axle casting where the stock compression adjuster lies. Traxxion at least retains the base valves in their carts, but only gives one leg a compression adjuster (at the top) and the other leg a rebound adjuster. K-Tech's solution was to fit their IDS carts, which ditch the base valves altogether for an Ohlins NiX30-like design, but with 25mm pistons instead. I didn't like the idea of rendering my compression adjusters useless, nor the reduction in piston port flow area in going four valves down to two. And I especially didn't want the hassle of removing the inner fork tube from the axle casting to install or remove the cartridges. So once I had all the info the Matris carts were the obvious choice. (I'm not patting myself on the back yet, though. There's still a chance this all goes to hell because I missed some minor detail.)

If I had a standard Street Triple I'm not sure what I'd do. Upgrading the fork internals will make the brakes work better, but will ultimately highlight their weaknesses. On my previous bike ('09 Yamaha FZ1) I was able to swap in an R1 front end, which made a huge difference in both ride quality and braking performance. But it wasn't until I completed the package and installed the R1 master cylinder and SS brake lines that the brakes really wowed me. Keep in mind, of course, that the R1 is a true supersport machine. (The STR definitely is not. My brief stint on a '12 GSXR 750 this spring/summer made it clear that the extra $K's in a supersport's MSRP are not wasted by the engineers. I bought it used and am still dazzled at the performance value it offered---after the heavy first-year depreciation, anyway.) I considered revalving or installing cartridges in those R1 forks, but they were so good already.. I never bothered. I'm not sure I would say the same for the standard Daytona forks. I've only done one test ride, and from what I remember they were very stiff and harsh. I was not comfortable in that riding position, though, so I might feel differently if they fitted to a Street Triple. I'd probably just have to wait patiently for a deal on a Daytona 675 front end that left enough in the budget for cartridges, or at least a revalve. On the bright side, you guys should have a little extra in the budget since you didn't spring for the R model. Right? :)
 
I do hear ya, mcarnold. All these parts definitely seem to be a little cheaper for you guys in US. Land of opportunity! The costs you've detailed above, at the higher end, do amount to about $700. In the grand schemes of things cheaper, yes, but not that much. Especially not to me, when a load of shipping is added on. I'll keep scouring EBay, though... Something may come up. I appreciate what you're saying.

Not saying better pads etc. would match radial brakes at all. What I have could be improved slightly, though. I guess another question is can my ST brakes be upgraded in the future with better MC/calipers? Not radial, no, but better all the same. I'll look into that. Would be nice to have that as an upgrade option in the future. I reckon I could live without it, though.

At the moment I swaying towards having excellent forks and good brakes, rather than really good forks and really good brakes, basically. But, again, you're right, more info on the Matris cartridges would be really useful. Over to you, UAV...

Cheers
I know the FZ-09, FZ-1 has similar mounting configuration to that of the standard striple but with 4 piston calipers. They aren't radial brakes but they do have more pistons than the striple. But I think the mounting bolts are off by a few mm. As far as other options for radial brakes, the only way would be to change the lower fork boot to a different boot that supports the mounting of radial brakes. But if you did that might as well change carts as well since the lower boot will have compression adjustment at the bottom.
 
Keep in mind here, guys, that I already have the R model with radial brakes (calipers and M/C). And since I have compression adjusters the carts I ordered may differ from the standard Street Triple version. In fact, that was the reason I chose Matris' over the offerings from K-Tech and Traxxion. The 2013+ Street Triples (standard and R) have an odd fork cartridge mounting scheme. Instead of having a hole in the bottom of the axle casting for a mounting screw, from what I've gathered there's a spring-loaded support in the inner tube that the cartridge clips onto. Both K-Tech and Traxxion decided to replace this support with one that mates with their cartridges. And in so doing, they block off the chamber in the axle casting where the stock compression adjuster lies. Traxxion at least retains the base valves in their carts, but only gives one leg a compression adjuster (at the top) and the other leg a rebound adjuster. K-Tech's solution was to fit their IDS carts, which ditch the base valves altogether for an Ohlins NiX30-like design, but with 25mm pistons instead. I didn't like the idea of rendering my compression adjusters useless, nor the reduction in piston port flow area in going four valves down to two. And I especially didn't want the hassle of removing the inner fork tube from the axle casting to install or remove the cartridges. So once I had all the info the Matris carts were the obvious choice. (I'm not patting myself on the back yet, though. There's still a chance this all goes to hell because I missed some minor detail.)

If I had a standard Street Triple I'm not sure what I'd do. Upgrading the fork internals will make the brakes work better, but will ultimately highlight their weaknesses. On my previous bike ('09 Yamaha FZ1) I was able to swap in an R1 front end, which made a huge difference in both ride quality and braking performance. But it wasn't until I completed the package and installed the R1 master cylinder and SS brake lines that the brakes really wowed me. Keep in mind, of course, that the R1 is a true supersport machine. (The STR definitely is not. My brief stint on a '12 GSXR 750 this spring/summer made it clear that the extra $K's in a supersport's MSRP are not wasted by the engineers. I bought it used and am still dazzled at the performance value it offered---after the heavy first-year depreciation, anyway.) I considered revalving or installing cartridges in those R1 forks, but they were so good already.. I never bothered. I'm not sure I would say the same for the standard Daytona forks. I've only done one test ride, and from what I remember they were very stiff and harsh. I was not comfortable in that riding position, though, so I might feel differently if they fitted to a Street Triple. I'd probably just have to wait patiently for a deal on a Daytona 675 front end that left enough in the budget for cartridges, or at least a revalve. On the bright side, you guys should have a little extra in the budget since you didn't spring for the R model. Right? :)
A little extra in the budget? Right, I already blew that money on beer and...well just beer actually.

I have the story behind the Traxxion carts but I cant remember the thread where I read its review. But it did seem like a lot of work they went through to design the mounting configuration. I think I read it took them 8 weeks or so to design it (evidently this person was the test subject). I have ridden the 2012 str and a 07 Daytona and yes Ive gotten to old for that riding position. But the forks are identical and felt the same. The brakes are much better than the standard striple brakes! Im 175lbs and the forks aren't bad on the striple (like they are on the FZ-09, my god those forks suck!!!!). But they are lack compression and to much rebound (although I could be feeling to much lack of compression and it actually lacks rebound as well). Anyways, when I installed my R1 shock on the rear, my god it magnified the front issues so much that corner entry at a good speed gets scary!

One issue that I ran into and those with 13+ bikes with ABS need to keep in mind. You must use 13+ forks!!! The 12 and below models don't have the ABS mount in the lower fork boot and they wont work.

Now the matris carts have compression in one fork and rebound in another I saw. One there web site it even states that it is not to be used on the R models! Maybe you bought different carts but someone asked them that and matris replied "This part doesn't fit the "R" version. It has rebound and compression alternate. One cartridge has preload and rebound and the other has preload and compression" (directly from their site). UAV, which exact carts did you get?
 
I know the FZ-09, FZ-1 has similar mounting configuration to that of the standard striple but with 4 piston calipers. They aren't radial brakes but they do have more pistons than the striple. But I think the mounting bolts are off by a few mm. As far as other options for radial brakes, the only way would be to change the lower fork boot to a different boot that supports the mounting of radial brakes. But if you did that might as well change carts as well since the lower boot will have compression adjustment at the bottom.
Thanks for the info... I guess if this was really a viable option there would be untold threads on here about it, right? I don't really have the engineering/mechanic skills to go too leftfield, so maybe this one should be shelved. Both yourself and UAV appear to know a little more about all this than me, so this is proving an invaluable learning experience for me. For this I thank you, gentlemen... :)
 
A little extra in the budget? Right, I already blew that money on beer and...well just beer actually.

I have the story behind the Traxxion carts but I cant remember the thread where I read its review. But it did seem like a lot of work they went through to design the mounting configuration. I think I read it took them 8 weeks or so to design it (evidently this person was the test subject). I have ridden the 2012 str and a 07 Daytona and yes Ive gotten to old for that riding position. But the forks are identical and felt the same. The brakes are much better than the standard striple brakes! Im 175lbs and the forks aren't bad on the striple (like they are on the FZ-09, my god those forks suck!!!!). But they are lack compression and to much rebound (although I could be feeling to much lack of compression and it actually lacks rebound as well). Anyways, when I installed my R1 shock on the rear, my god it magnified the front issues so much that corner entry at a good speed gets scary!

One issue that I ran into and those with 13+ bikes with ABS need to keep in mind. You must use 13+ forks!!! The 12 and below models don't have the ABS mount in the lower fork boot and they wont work.

Now the matris carts have compression in one fork and rebound in another I saw. One there web site it even states that it is not to be used on the R models! Maybe you bought different carts but someone asked them that and matris replied "This part doesn't fit the "R" version. It has rebound and compression alternate. One cartridge has preload and rebound and the other has preload and compression" (directly from their site). UAV, which exact carts did you get?
:) I spent all my spare cash on the fast bike and... Well, just the fast bike actually. (If I'd known then what I know now, I'd have an STR...)

I think there's another version of the carts good for the STR, mcarnold... Right, UAV? I bloody hope so!

I'm hesitant to install my Daytona shock (which I have yet to get a new spring for, anyway) before I have a plan/the parts for the front of my bike, for the same reason as you described above. A couple of people have said it's ok for me to install it while the front forks are still stock, but I wonder if it will make the bike really unbalanced. Or maybe the Daytona shock isn't THAT much of a leap in performance for it to be a problem... What do you guys think?

Even though I'm convinced the suspension is the most important part of this whole puzzle, for me, I'm now back round, full-circle, to thinking I have to get new forks as the first part of my own project. I'm a bit of a whippet, 70kg, so brakes maybe aren't as vital to me as others, but maybe my plan to sort beautiful suspension and pretty much ignore the brakes, or at least not future-proof my set-up, is flawed. (Even though next week I'll be saying the opposite, again, of course...) I want better suspension to be able to push it a little more on track... I won't ever be a racer, but I'm not the kind who won't try and push it as much as I can to learn and, well, just get as fast as I can. So I can appreciate that if I get the Matris cartridges for my ST forks I am running the risk of somewhere down the line wanting better brakes, then I'm really stuck. You may well be onto something, macarnold...

Ok, another quick look on EBay, before finishing off work stuff? Yeah...
 
:) I spent all my spare cash on the fast bike and... Well, just the fast bike actually. (If I'd known then what I know now, I'd have an STR...)[...]
If I knew now what I knew then, I'm not sure I would pay the extra for the R-model. The radial brakes are definitely a plus, but aside from that the "upgraded" suspension amounts to nothing more than extra adjusters. And they still don't have a wide enough range to make the bike handle how I want it to. I'll take a bike with non-adjustable suspension that's been properly sprung and valved over the inverse any day. And I suspect my STR with aftermarket cartridge kit, shock, and linear linkage will end up costing me the same as a ST with a Daytona 675 front end plus the same aftermarket parts. I do like the black anodized forks, though.

Have you guys looked into fitting a Daytona 675R front end and shock? If you can find a deal on those parts it might be the best performance value.

I'm hesitant to install my Daytona shock (which I have yet to get a new spring for, anyway) before I have a plan/the parts for the front of my bike, for the same reason as you described above. A couple of people have said it's ok for me to install it while the front forks are still stock, but I wonder if it will make the bike really unbalanced. Or maybe the Daytona shock isn't THAT much of a leap in performance for it to be a problem... What do you guys think?
I've taken my sweet time on suspension upgrades in the past, mostly because I was cheap. I found (what I thought was) a deal on a Penske shock for my FZ1, and spent a few months shopping for a deal on all the extra/missing parts. This was after months of riding around with an R1 front end and the stock shock. At no point did I wish I had taken longer to install the superior parts. It's not like the chassis is going to go into some dangerous feedback loop. You will notice one end is working better than the other, sure, but not because it's made the other end work worse. If anything, you may find yourself with more confidence under acceleration than under braking. But you will subconsciously compensate for it. Obviously you'll want to make sure your sag is in the right range and push on the bike to get the damping relatively balanced front-to-back. Take it to a suspension tuner if you're unsure how to adjust it. But by all means, don't subject yourself to inferior suspension any longer than necessary!
 
If I knew now what I knew then, I'm not sure I would pay the extra for the R-model. The radial brakes are definitely a plus, but aside from that the "upgraded" suspension amounts to nothing more than extra adjusters. And they still don't have a wide enough range to make the bike handle how I want it to. I'll take a bike with non-adjustable suspension that's been properly sprung and valved over the inverse any day. And I suspect my STR with aftermarket cartridge kit, shock, and linear linkage will end up costing me the same as a ST with a Daytona 675 front end plus the same aftermarket parts. I do like the black anodized forks, though.

Have you guys looked into fitting a Daytona 675R front end and shock? If you can find a deal on those parts it might be the best performance value.
I have read a little about that as an option. You have to get the ST's bottom yoke, I think it is, machined to be a little bigger for the fork tubes (2mm, maybe?) or get a custom yoke made. (I heard someone say it's not good to machine the regular yoke, heard someone else suggest it's ok...) My bike is my only transport as well, so I can't have it in bits for ages, sadly. I know the brakes would be lacking with just new carts, but it's not like they don't stop the bike. On track days I've never come in off a session and thought "Man, I wish my brakes were stronger/had better feel", but I do think, every time, "Man, that's like riding a wishy washy bouncy castle!" I know with good suspension the limitations of the brakes will be highlighted, but there's gonna have to be compromises somewhere.

For me the most practical option, by a long way, is to get replacement cartridges. Pricey, yeah, but I may simply have to go the most practical route, even if it doesn't make sense to everyone. And the Matris carts really aren't THAT much more costly, all things considered, than going the Daytona route. But yeah, I'd have basic brakes, and the suspension will highlight that as I get faster. I'll just be learning to ride as though I'm on a 125, trying to carry good corner speed! Good suspension won't mean my brakes will actually get worse, though, lets remember that. And I've never ridden another bike in anger, so I know no different. The excellent suspension would I'm sure, in itself, help me improve greatly on track, and make it much less hairy at times, as well.

You just hinted at another option, which is Maxton replacement carts, built for my weight/riding etc., but with no adjustability. Well, they put rebound adjustment on their most basic model, because it's easy to, but that's it. But those are still ÂŁ590/$930 installed. I'd have to pay to send my forks to them as well, so no cheaper in the end than fully adjustable Matris. If only Matris did a cheaper non-adjustable version cartridge kit, THAT would be for me! If anyone did that, in fact...

I'll keep scouring eBay every week or so, then see where I'm at in a few months time, by which time I'll have digested your in-depth review, as well :) I really appreciate your help and suggestions. As long as I have something in place for next years track days, April onwards, I'll be happy.

I've taken my sweet time on suspension upgrades in the past, mostly because I was cheap. I found (what I thought was) a deal on a Penske shock for my FZ1, and spent a few months shopping for a deal on all the extra/missing parts. This was after months of riding around with an R1 front end and the stock shock. At no point did I wish I had taken longer to install the superior parts. It's not like the chassis is going to go into some dangerous feedback loop. You will notice one end is working better than the other, sure, but not because it's made the other end work worse. If anything, you may find yourself with more confidence under acceleration than under braking. But you will subconsciously compensate for it. Obviously you'll want to make sure your sag is in the right range and push on the bike to get the damping relatively balanced front-to-back. Take it to a suspension tuner if you're unsure how to adjust it. But by all means, don't subject yourself to inferior suspension any longer than necessary!
I'll do it then! Pronto!
 
Sounds good. Another suggestion would be to create a "followed search" on eBay that will alert you when matching items are listed. Saves you the effort of running a search every day/week and might help you snag the parts before someone else does. eBay has a built-in tool for this, but for other classifieds (e.g. Craigslist) you might need a 3rd party app.
 
Sounds good. Another suggestion would be to create a "followed search" on eBay that will alert you when matching items are listed. Saves you the effort of running a search every day/week and might help you snag the parts before someone else does. eBay has a built-in tool for this, but for other classifieds (e.g. Craigslist) you might need a 3rd party app.
All in place... :thumbsup:
 
This is for UAV. You wrote "I didn't like the idea of rendering my compression adjusters useless, nor the reduction in piston port flow area in going four valves down to two." I am very interested in your view about this, I don't exactly know what your referring to, and was wondering if you could expand on it.

I have experience with Penske/Traxxion AK20 on a 2001 FZ1, Ohlins front and rear on my 2010 Tuono Factory, and just recently went with K-Tech front and rear on my 2014 STR. The installation challenges were correct on the forks, but the suspension shop was able to install the cartridges with rebound on the right, compression on the left. I questioned this, and was told it was actually better to have each fork dedicated to compression and rebound. I was not to sure I believed that until I rode the new suspension. It works really well, and may even be slightly better than my Tuono which up to now was the best handling/ride I ever experienced.
 
I will agree with UAV in that redoing either front or rear of the bike suspension doesn't really make the bike unbalanced. But instead highlights what part of the bike does well and doesn't do well. For me anything under acceleration through and corner exit the bike is on a rail. On entry at a good speed the bike scares the shit out of me! But that's cause on entry the front (poor suspension) is trying to lead the rear (good suspension) into the corner (not good). Any other part of the corner the front and rear are working together or the rear is trying to push the front out of the corner on exit.
 
But this is also for UAV, which Matris carts did you buy? Reason I ask is cause you said that you have the STR and on the website for the matris carts they said that these carts are not to be used with the STR only the standard. Did they have a different carts for the R model?
 
This is for UAV. You wrote "I didn't like the idea of rendering my compression adjusters useless, nor the reduction in piston port flow area in going four valves down to two." I am very interested in your view about this, I don't exactly know what your referring to, and was wondering if you could expand on it.

I have experience with Penske/Traxxion AK20 on a 2001 FZ1, Ohlins front and rear on my 2010 Tuono Factory, and just recently went with K-Tech front and rear on my 2014 STR. The installation challenges were correct on the forks, but the suspension shop was able to install the cartridges with rebound on the right, compression on the left. I questioned this, and was told it was actually better to have each fork dedicated to compression and rebound. I was not to sure I believed that until I rode the new suspension. It works really well, and may even be slightly better than my Tuono which up to now was the best handling/ride I ever experienced.
First I should admit that my opinion here is based on very limited practical experience with suspension tuning and design. Furthermore, my knowledge of the fluid dynamics within a damper are far from complete. Most (all?) of what I've read about suspension could not be considered objective or impartial. Nevertheless, I've got an opinion and you asked for it. So here goes.

I'm not at all surprised to hear that the K-Tech IDS cartridges work really well. I might have chosen them had the Matris cartridges not been---in order of importance---less expensive, (presumably) easier to install, and with a different internal design that could potentially make them perform better. Without disassembling and comparing the two cartridges side to side there's really no telling. For all I know a single K-Tech 25mm piston flows better than two 20mm Matris pistons. But my prejudice is that the opposite is true. And therefore the one-piston (per leg) system would require either a more viscous oil or a stiffer shim stack to produce a similar damping curve. Furthermore, at the extremes the two-piston system would have an advantage. That is, at very high suspension velocities the one-piston system would be more prone to hydraulic lock. And at very low velocities the two-piston system's softer shims could deflect and start working sooner. This assumes that both systems have had their shim stacks tuned with identical target damping curves.

In reality, even if all my assumptions are correct, the differences between these systems could be so subtle that I could not tell them apart on the road. When I asked Chris Taylor at K-Tech he said the only performance difference between their RDS (two-piston) and IDS (one-piston) system was a "slightly different feel". The million dollar question, of course, is how slight is that difference? And if I could feel it, which system would I prefer? I made an educated guess.. hopefully I didn't outsmart myself.

But this is also for UAV, which Matris carts did you buy? Reason I ask is cause you said that you have the STR and on the website for the matris carts they said that these carts are not to be used with the STR only the standard. Did they have a different carts for the R model?
The part number I ordered is F12T115S. It was not listed on any website, but when I asked for it Carpimoto put it up on their site, here:

http://www.carpimoto.it/en-US/Bike_...is/43981_F12T115S-Matris-Fork-Cartridge-Kit-for-Triumph-Street-Triple-R-13-.htm

Alberto sent me a .pdf showing all the parts available for the 2013+ STR (attached) and the installation instructions for the F12S kit (also attached). Aside from the adjustment setup numbers they're just generic instructions. He confirmed at least Step 6 is incorrect.
 

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Thanks UAV for the reply. They are slightly more expensive but allow you to maintain 2 valves per fork?

But I would like your opinion on something if you will? What didn't you like about the STR carts? Was the valving and shim stacks that far off? A feeling of vagueness?
 
They do preserve the traditional two valves per fork leg---rebound on the cartridge rod and base valve for compression. Whether that's necessarily better than the independent leg setup from Ohlins/K-Tech is just an educated guess. There does seem to be some consensus that the newer style is trickier to tune, though. At least that's been commonly reported with the new Ohlins NiX 30 vs their previous R&T cartridges. Perhaps it's because changes to the shim stack have magnified results. JanM, who clearly has more experience in this department, said this:
I do work with setting up various cartridges and I like the "old-style" cartridge setups with two basevalves and two rebound valves. But in my own bikes I also use cartridges that are similar to NIX30 (NIX20) and variations using different basevalve setup and bleed/refill paths. Using only one piston for each direction gives a very one-dimensional or on-off characteristic of the damping, so at the moment I am focusing on implementing basevalves and distributing damping between the valves and still have one compression adjuster on the top and one rebound adjuster on the top, so this setup can be used in a lot of bikes - similar to the way I have modified my stock forks with CBR1000RR cartridges (etc.).
The new implementation he's describing there is similar to Traxxion's solution. They can fit their AK-20 cartridges in forks without axle clamp compression adjusters and still give you compression adjustment on one leg. Many ways to skin a cat.. the Matris carts just made the most sense to me, in terms of design and price. They are the least expensive drop-in cartridge I found.

As far as the original STR forks, it's the same complaint I've had with most stock suspension parts. They do a pretty good job of damping at medium velocities, but a pretty bad job at high and low velocities. The result is harsh ride quality and imbalanced performance---sometimes over-controlled, sometimes under-controlled---especially on my freeway commute. Too much brake dive, acceleration squat, and slower steering response than you'd expect, considering how stiff it feels over sharp bumps. The linear linkage helped quite a bit with the acceleration squat, but not enough. It actually feels pretty good on a twisty road, where it operates in that medium velocity range. But I can tell the chassis is capable of so much more.

The only bikes I've ridden that felt properly tuned out of the box have been supersports---which tells you something about my riding style. Even though they aren't what I would call plush, at least they respond consistently to the full range of inputs. Some expensive touring bikes achieve this kind of balance, except they are uniformly plush. In any case, I've mostly owned commuter-style bikes that are both built to a price and designed to do a little bit of everything---rather than do one thing really well. My Kawasaki Versys was billed as having the ideal "combination of long-travel suspension and stiff springs"... So I get the extra travel, but not a softer spring so I can actually use it? Clearly there are categories where marketing is more important than engineering.

As far as what it would take to "fix" the STR forks, I really can't say. I haven't seen the guts of the fork yet. Probably won't even look inside the cartridge. And I've heard conflicting reports of the potential of reshimming the stock valves. Ed at Lindemann Engineering asserts that the pistons have sufficient flow potential, at least. But that fits his business model. In the same way that Race Tech will assert that they are too restrictive and must be replaced with gold valves. If this was my 2nd bike I'd probably take a stab at a simple reshim/respring. But I wouldn't be surprised to find the stock valves is just as wacky as that spring-loaded cartridge retainer.
 
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