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Well, for what it's worth- I was OVER 700 miles by the time I was told to visit redline, use the throttle, etc... and, I had been even more conservative than Triumph for the 1st 500. I used 8,500 RPM's as my max for the 1st 300 miles, then 9,500, which I held until almost 700 miles, and, THEN I started going to redline, using the throttle more aggressively, etc... So, really, last 300 miles got the full work out!

I, like Decipher, 'break in' using recommeded guidelines, and, I tend to keep vehicles for a long time as well. So, when given the green light, it was more reflective of the very end of the Triumph break in schedule. Also, I did NOT want to have my oil chaged and THEN go to the redline, use full throttle and have pieces floating in my oil for the next 6,000 miles! Hopefully, I was cautious enough in the beginning, "Doing the right thing" long enough, for me to complete a proper break in... It was really nice for the owner of the store to give me permission to go wild though. I was ready to listen to anything that freed me up to go crazy, knowwhatimean?

But, either way- it's done. I was very close to 1,000 miles (970) when I dropped the bike off this early morning, and, the oil is being changed as we speak. At 700 miles, I checked the oil, and, it was low- about 3/4ths of a quart low! I added 10W-40 Castrol full synthetic motor oil (not MC specific though) because it was available locally, and, I didn't want to ride with the oil so low. Not sure if that's 'normal' or not, but, it's what happened to me...

Dave
 
Sane? Not me. The bike has a gallon and a half when that light comes on. Plenty of extra time to get fuel.
Okay, let's say that's the case. Your personal 45 mpg still does not exceed over 200 unless you literally ran it dry. And you'd be above 200 by 2 miles if we're getting technical.

I also am not sure if you're using gallons filled vs trip meter. The mpg indicator on the gauge is nothing but bullshit. I am not getting 40-50 mpgs because every gallon yields me 25-35 actual miles
 
I only calculate using actual miles. By the way the trip isn't always accurate either.

Whatever you want to believe I've seen 210 miles on the trip when filling before and never got better then 45mpg. Also no it wasn't dry. The fuel pump was sti mostly covered. The tank is bigger then you think. The fuel light comes on way way early.
 
I only calculate using actual miles. By the way the trip isn't always accurate either.
Technically, the odometer isn't accurate due to the factory error. However, wouldn't the trip counter be the same accuracy as the odometer? They're both part of the same instrument panel circuitry, so how is one calibrated more, or less, accurate than the other?
 
Well between my trip meter and my gps miles to certain places, it's been spot on.

I usually see 1/3 if not more of the fuel pump when the light is on when I pop the lid and look in. I don't know how much fuel is left but from my mpgs, I'd probably have 15 or less miles before I'm finished.
 
I must have a lemon. I get about 210KM before the gas light comes on. Not miles... KMs. Been that way since day one. 15000km later still exactly the same. For anyone complaining about their 30-40 mpg... look at mine then feel good about yours. /rantoff
 
I've gotten 55-57mpg on mine with the stock pipe and map. The TORs and map dropped it to maybe 50. 45-50 if I ride it like a raped ape. It's traffic stop and go crap that'll kill my mileage. The speedo is pretty accurate on mine. At least that's what the speedo on my iPhone and GPS says... Can't say that for my Guzzi in the least.

I find it weird how this topic always pops up on the forums around this time of year. :whistle:
 
since when is there a 1.5 gallons left when the light goes on??
Any bike with EFI will have a silly realm of " unusable" fuel. I want to say in the Street it's like .5 gal. The light should pop on with 1.5 left. Normally depending on your average mpg to range about 30-35 miles. Mine pops on exactly after 3gallons is used. 120-130 miles. 40-45mpg really but on the computer it says maybe 50s. A little generous.

I guess I can rebut that on my last post.
 
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I checked the 'settings' and everything was set to US measurements. Heck, even if was switched by the dealership to US today, while they were installing some OEM goodies & performing the expensive "First Service" @ 9 73miles, that would not change my MPG stats a bit. Since I have been using the full tank to full tank measurements- and, only taking the MILES off of the bike, my MPG's are unaffected by Imperial Gallons.

Let's see: We've touched the following topics

1) Break-in methods, approaches & potential impacts.
2) MPG's Tank reading empty vs. really empty.
3) The yellow fuel warning light timing: 0.9 gallons or 1.5 gallons.

I'm sure that I forgot a few topics covered, but, I'm still averaging 48+ MPG since new (-31 miles prior to 1st fill-up), which includes the engine break in period, where surfaces are mating, throttle is used modestly & oil burns off faster than on a well broke in engine. I expected to get 38.5 MPG or less, based on the fact that I can't stay out of the throttle, and heck, I like spending less on gas! It's a total bonus on an outstanding bike, whose limits I may never realistically approach!

Don't laugh, but, I just got caught in a tornado warning- in NH?- got soaked to the bone, almost blown off the road, struck by lightning and had to hide under an overpass for about 15 minutes. Of course, this was after I picked up the bike, all cleaned up, fresh oil, nicely adjusted chain & lubed as well...I topped off, just in case water got into the tank...and, got 46MPG. My worst yet, at 983 miles, but mostly highway miles...???
 
Any bike with EFI will have a silly realm of " unusable" fuel. I want to say in the Street it's like .5 gal. The light should pop on with 1.5 left. Normally depending on your average mpg to range about 30-35 miles. Mine pops on exactly after 3gallons is used. 120-130 miles. 40-45mpg really but on the computer it says maybe 50s. A little generous.

I guess I can rebut that on my last post.
There is no unusable fuel with the 675s. I have ran one out (customers by accident) and it had zero drops of fuel left in the tank. Shined a light down in there and it was bare metal.
 
Technically, the odometer isn't accurate due to the factory error. However, wouldn't the trip counter be the same accuracy as the odometer? They're both part of the same instrument panel circuitry, so how is one calibrated more, or less, accurate than the other?
Well here is the deal with odometers (same for trip). They are fairly accurate from the factory. within .5% I would say maybe a bit better. They always error to the positive side as they can't under record mileage because of regulations. But unlike speedometers the error is nearly unmeasuarable in most cases when new over small distances. However most people never stick to OEM approved tires. So as soon as you get new tires you introduce error. Even if you buy the same tires as that came on them the retail tires typically are made in a different factory with different compounds and aren't exactly the same diameter. I've had customers put bike computers on their bikes because they were needing precession for whatever long distance record they were going for and there is definitely an error factor and sometimes it's quite large.

That said I just use the odo like anyone else and I use to get 45 constantly. I couldn't get better no matter what sort of hill I was coasting down. Sucky Street Triple aerodynamics. I know a lot of Daytona riders say they can get 50 so I'm sure it's just a matter of aero.
 
That's assuming one would run the bike bone dry whilst on highway. Any sane person will get to agas station when the light comes on; which would theoretically not allow you to deplete the tank. So even @ 45 mpg, 4 gallons =/= 200 mpg.
How often and when you fill up your gas tank has nothing to do with the actual MPG. If you really want to know what your getting, do a week long test and log your fill-ups. At the end of the week take your numbers and do the math. Just say'n

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How often and when you fill up your gas tank has nothing to do with the actual MPG. If you really want to know what your getting, do a week long test and log your fill-ups. At the end of the week take your numbers and do the math. Just say'n

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I never said anything about when or how you fill gas.

You don't need to do a whole week. Do a consistent 1 gal fill when the light hits. Both of those will be markers. Look at your trip meter and see how many miles you get with that 1 gallon. You can figure this out within hours.
 
How often and when you fill up your gas tank has nothing to do with the actual MPG. If you really want to know what your getting, do a week long test and log your fill-ups. At the end of the week take your numbers and do the math. Just say'n

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Well, to be fair, if you keep your tank mostly empty and only fill it say halfway you will get marginally better mileage due to weight savings. I believe each gallon of gas is 6 lbs

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I never said anything about when or how you fill gas.

You don't need to do a whole week. Do a consistent 1 gal fill when the light hits. Both of those will be markers. Look at your trip meter and see how many miles you get with that 1 gallon. You can figure this out within hours.
Didn't mean to piss you off. I have read on other threads about this stuff and seems like people get hung up on how much fuel fits in a tank when figuring MPG. Yes you can do math in one full tank of gas if you choose, I just used a week as an example. If your a commuter and a weekend rider, a week would give you ample time to ride all your various styles and get an average MPG based on all types of riding you do.

And Hokie, you're technically correct, I think we're just splitting hairs at that point.

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Didn't mean to piss you off. I have read on other threads about this stuff and seems like people get hung up on how much fuel fits in a tank when figuring MPG. Yes you can do math in one full tank of gas if you choose, I just used a week as an example. If your a commuter and a weekend rider, a week would give you ample time to ride all your various styles and get an average MPG based on all types of riding you do.

And Hokie, you're technically correct, I think we're just splitting hairs at that point.

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I'm not, I'm just saying the bike mpg is wrong and you can only measure based on gallons in vs miles output

Well, to be fair, if you keep your tank mostly empty and only fill it say halfway you will get marginally better mileage due to weight savings. I believe each gallon of gas is 6 lbs

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I actually fill up 2 gals max and usually always 1. Exceptions are if I'm doing a long commute. I do the same with my car (not same gallons but never full) not for your technical mpg reason
 
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