Does anyone know what kind of anti freeze to use..It says in the book mobil anti-freeze 50/50.. what other name brands are good that i can find easy in autozone or my local bike store..
mac2mac
I'm using Engine Ice. A lot of guys use Water Wetter. Another option is the Honda brand coolant they use in their motorcycles. The big dealer close to me uses it in everything, Honda, Yamaha, Kawi, Ducati, Suzuki, etc...
everyone talks about engine ice... what about this stuff http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=WES_82-2174_G
I know in my area, several of the track day clubs are allowing Engine Ice for a trial period to see if it's track worthy like Water Wetter. I asked the guy at the dealer about Engine Ice and being on the track. He said it's not slippery like normal coolant so tracks have no problems with it, but when I rubbed it between my fingers, it felt slippery to me....so I don't know what the deal is with that. I guess we'll see eventually when tracks allow or don't allow it.
I use Water Wetter. If you don't have to worry about freezing temps when you store your bike or riding in the winter then you're good but Engine Ice would be your better choice if you're in colder locations.
If you don't do track days/racing just stick with whatever the manual says. Many track/race orgs do not allow glycol based antifreeze for no other reason than that it is slippery as ice when spilled and a bitch to clean up off the track. NESBA does not allow Engine Ice in A, STT & TPM do allow it.
I run Engine Ice in my 675 because it is stricly a track bike and because I drag it down to Florida in the dead of winter annually so I don't want it to freeze up in the trailer (as unlikely as that may be). If I did not have any reason to worry about freezing I'd just stick to Water Wetter.
I run Engine Ice in my 675 because it is stricly a track bike and because I drag it down to Florida in the dead of winter annually so I don't want it to freeze up in the trailer (as unlikely as that may be). If I did not have any reason to worry about freezing I'd just stick to Water Wetter.
If you are in NY like your location lists make sure your bike is not exposed to freezing temps if you use WaterWetter - it will freeze just as easily as water (and bad things will happen).
Is Water Wetter even an antifreeze.... this is what the description says Note: This product does not contain antifreeze. Use with a long-life antifreeze if freezing temperatures are to be encountered. I when to go to the dealership in the city off of 6th ave but they were closed until the summer..I have to go to the one in jersey to see what they have...
Water wetter is just an additive to make any coolant perform better. It can be added to straight water or a water:antifreeze mix.
Its pretty well known in the race world that antifreeze decreases the performance of the cooling system. Pure distilled water will always work better. Unfortunately, pure water freezes and expands at much higher temps, and that destroys engines. So antifreeze is better than broken engine blocks.
Engine ice is pretty much a water:antifreeze mix that already has cool additives similar to water wetter. When using water wetter, you produce the basic mix yourself. That has advantages if you know you won't encounter freezing temps and can run a higher water mix, and thus get a little better performance.
Its pretty well known in the race world that antifreeze decreases the performance of the cooling system. Pure distilled water will always work better. Unfortunately, pure water freezes and expands at much higher temps, and that destroys engines. So antifreeze is better than broken engine blocks.
Engine ice is pretty much a water:antifreeze mix that already has cool additives similar to water wetter. When using water wetter, you produce the basic mix yourself. That has advantages if you know you won't encounter freezing temps and can run a higher water mix, and thus get a little better performance.
As stated above, WaterWetter is NOT anti-freeze. Do not use it with just distilled water (best combo) unless your bike will NEVER see freezing temps.
Just get whatever the manual says or equivalent - in a street bike there is no real reason to do anything else.
Just get whatever the manual says or equivalent - in a street bike there is no real reason to do anything else.
Just to flush you can use regular water.
If he is looking to use water with water wetter as his coolant then he should use distilled water. I think we already covered that in his case the water/water wetter idea is a pretty poor solution.
If he is looking to use water with water wetter as his coolant then he should use distilled water. I think we already covered that in his case the water/water wetter idea is a pretty poor solution.
Couple important things i was told when i changed my coolant was to not use water, use distilled water, do not use any cleaning agents other then vinegar, and if using engine ice, make sure ALL coolant is out. The service guy was telling me about a demo he saw with engine ice, a couple drops of coolant apparently really messes with this stuff.
Just telling you what i was told. He said the guy had an eyedropper of coolant he put into engine ice and it turned into some brown nasty stuff. How much engine ice he put it into, he didnt say though. I flushed the system twice to make sure.
Same here. With the amount of abuse my motorcycle engine takes compared to my car, i tend to do it by the book a lot more with the bike then the car.
I see this regularly.
EG and PG coolants do not mix well.
If Engine Ice is used, and the old coolant is not completely flushed FIRST, the peak temps are actual higher, and the engine takes longer to cool back down.
EG and PG coolants do not mix well.
If Engine Ice is used, and the old coolant is not completely flushed FIRST, the peak temps are actual higher, and the engine takes longer to cool back down.
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