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#4,543 ·
TwoWheeledWonder said:
If it was easy everyone would do it. I rather learn a skill than rely on electronics when it comes to my riding. If spending 2000+ just for ABS is worth the mod, or exchanging your bike for an extra cost than more power to you, but learning is free yet worth more than either of those other two options.
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Plus, ABS is just another thing to break and cost a lot of money to fix. These bikes are complicated enough.
 
#4,546 ·
ABS was a requirement on the bikes I was shopping. I am a believer in ABS technology and how it makes for safer bikes. These very arguments(too complicated, it is no substitute for proper braking technique) were the same arguments presented when ABS became first available in cars as well. But it has been proven time and time again that an ABS system only improves your chances of avoiding an accident and not hindering your ability to stop. There have been studies done and only a very few select people can out brake an ABS system and threshold braking technique required to achieve that is very hard to master. Frankly the way the ABS is built in to the bikes even with a failure of the system there are still brakes available just not ABS.

Whether you like it or not the ABS technology is here to stay and relatively cheap to implement at a manufacturing level. It is only a matter of time before they come standard on all machines just like today's cars. In Europe it is a requirement to fit all bikes with ABS for new bikes sold from 2016 onwards.

I agree wholeheartedly it is not a perfect system by far but we are getting there. Look at KTM's new Bosch ABS system with a tilt sensor allowing the brakes to be applied in a turn. It is only a matter of time before manufacturers come up with a great system for an affordable price.

Will there always be purists saying that ABS will be taking away from the motorcycling experience? Sure, but their numbers will dwindle as more and more bikes come standard with better ABS technology and they experience it for themselves.
 
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Cobblers. For what I want a bike for ABS is just ugly unnecessary weight, complication and expense (especially when it breaks out of warranty and leaves you with a four figure repair bill). Don't need it, don't want it, and it's of no advantage to what i use a bike for (and a disadvantage when it stops me dicking about the way I want to).

One thing that made me laugh most about ABS on bikes is that for donkeys' years the manufacturers have been telling everyone that they really must buy this year's bike, because it's 300 grammes lighter than last year's model, then when Honda introduced their crappy CABS system they said "Oh, it only adds 7kg - you won't notice that"... Priceless, lol.
 
#4,549 ·
DougL said:
Actually the post before yours is pretty much all correct. .
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That's a matter of opinion. My opinion is that it's cobblers, as are ABS, traction control, fly by wire throttles, selectable "power modes", and all the other pointless electronic shite that's ruining modern motorcycles. One of the reasons I bought my Street R is specifically because it doesn't have any of that awful crap - it's a s pure a riders' bike as you could buy these days. Just a shame it couldn't have carbs, but the tree hugger eco-mentalists say we're not allowed those anymore...
 
#4,553 ·
A lot of these sentiments sound exactly the same as those back when ABS first appeared on cars. I don't think too many argue today that it is a bad idea. Test after test after test have proven that even the best professional driver cannot best the ABS system. The biggest thing with ABS on a bike, in my opinion, is to remember that you have it and squeeze the hell out of that lever until you're stopped.

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#4,554 ·
Kowalski said:
That's a matter of opinion. My opinion is that it's cobblers, as are ABS, traction control, fly by wire throttles, selectable "power modes", and all the other pointless electronic shite that's ruining modern motorcycles. One of the reasons I bought my Street R is specifically because it doesn't have any of that awful crap - it's a s pure a riders' bike as you could buy these days. Just a shame it couldn't have carbs, but the tree hugger eco-mentalists say we're not allowed those anymore...
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ABS might be a wasteful addition of weight to yours as well as traction control and ride-by-wire technology. But whether you like it or not they are here to stay, because they inherently make motorcycling safer for the rest of the population that's not a professional rider like yourself.
 
#4,555 ·
Aeolus said:
ABS might be a wasteful addition of weight to yours as well as traction control and ride-by-wire technology. But whether you like it or not they are here to stay,
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Not on my bikes they aren't. Motorcycling should be dangerous. Who the f**k wants to do it if it's not? ABS is of no advantage for what I use a bike for, and if you need TC or selectable power modes on a 100bhp bike then you shouldn't even be on a bike, lol.
 
#4,556 ·
Kowalski said:
Not on my bikes they aren't. Motorcycling should be dangerous. Who the f**k wants to do it if it's not? ABS is of no advantage for what I use a bike for, and if you need TC or selectable power modes on a 100bhp bike then you shouldn't even be on a bike, lol.
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I, for one chose motorcycling not because of the inherent danger it involves.
 
#4,558 ·
bira said:
The fact that most MotoGP riders use traction control, for example, and that the top riders are faster because of it, kind of speaks for itself.
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And what does the fact that the fastest riders want it banned because it doesn't make them faster, only helps the slower riders, and has no place on a race bike tell us?... Electronics (and Carmelo Ezpelata) have ruined "Moto GP" and made it the utterly tedious procession that it is today. Ban it all, ditch the diesels and bring back real race bikes - the only traction control on a GP bike should be the rider's brain and right wrist.
 
#4,560 ·
Kowalski said:
And what does the fact that the fastest riders want it banned because it doesn't make them faster, only helps the slower riders, and has no place on a race bike tell us?... Electronics have ruined "Moto GP" and made it the utterly tedious procession that it is today. Ban it all, ditch the diesels and bring back real race bikes - the only traction control on a GP bike should be the rider's brain and right wrist.
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Well, I do agree with your point here in regards to racing as it should be about rider skill. However, on the street it is about safety, the danger of riding a bike on the street sure as heck don't go away because you have ABS, as the danger comes from cagers for the most part.

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