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2.4K views 11 replies 9 participants last post by  spargett  
#1 ·
DON'T WORRY NOT THE DAYTONA. My vintage bike, 74 Trident.

Hello My Friends. I wanted to post this here as well as on my other forum because you guys are my family as well. I have been enjoying my 74 Trident on the roads in the Midwest of Illinois. Went out on a group ride for the first time with me, my dad, and his buddy.

We get out to Oregon IL just fine no issues the bike is running great for him. My only observation is that when ever he gets on the bike with some acceleration, the pipes would shoot out some black smoke. I'm not really thinking much of that because the power is there for him as he was making some good acceleration.

So here we are at good eatery in Oregon. Got a black Angus burger and it was great.

this photo shows 74 Trident, 78 Kawasaki, and my new 2011 Daytona 675. (Picked that up about 2 months ago)

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Then trouble starts. When we get ready to head out, my dad cant start the bike. When he kicks it sounded like nothing was there. I give it a shot and nothing was there it was like there was no connection between the transmission and the motor. So they said why not give it a push start. I was against the push start on this bike, because i felt it may hurt it further.

So we push start it and it starts up. GREAT! But it does not seem right, i would be in gear and try to accelerate and the rpm's would only increase. So i shift gears a bit and it goes away. I bring it back to my dad so he can ride it so we can go to the next stop.

Well we get down the road and i see in my rear view my dad begins to slow down..... I am not liking this. I pull over and see what is up. He explains that the engine would just rev while he was in gear. We **** the bike down and check for gears. Click down to 1. Push bike to see if in gear, it keeps rolling. Click up to 2, it keeps rolling. Now i am getting concerned. Did i just blow the transmission by push starting....but how did it get that way after we had just rode it for 50 miles...?

so here we are stuck in between Oregon IL and Byron IL on Route 2.

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The sad thing is not one person stopped to make sure we were ok. even guys with empty trailers just kept on going. I saw like 4 of those and i was like man if they could get us to Byron (5.4 miles North) or Oregon (3.2 miles south). I digress.

well, as you have already guessed it we had to tow the bike home.

Stan, the truck driver had a nice set up for the bike.

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And here begins another story about how the bike had died on my or my dad. Darn. I guess i have always wanted to do a full restoration on this thing, but i have to talk to the fiancee about that.....

Cheers,

Joe
 
#7 ·
Thanks for the Support.



Thanks, I will try to take some time apart to take a look myself. I work this weekend to who knows when i will have time.

Sorry to hear about that dude. Youll get it all sorted it. Best of luck woth it though keep ua updated

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I will keep you guys up to date, hopefully soon i shall know.

Seems like the symptoms of a worn out clutch nothing more.
Perhaps, but i shall need a closer look.

Sorry to hear about the trouble, you have some great looking bikes!
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.

Im not too familiar with the vintage Triumph's (even though it almost much sounds clutch related, but he fact you could push start it, and not kick start it makes it sound a lot more serious). Id consider the possibility of a stripped gear somewhere around the starter planetary.
Here are a few people that very much know Triumph's. Perhaps they'd know what to do. Their local dealers here in my city (Calgary).

Call Mark at TJ's cycles
(403) 252-3030

The old motorcycle shop
403.261.0034

Thats about all I can suggest really, too bad you're not closer. Some of them would have it back on the road in no time at all. Good luck!
Thanks for the resources. I will attempt to take a look at the bike when i get a free chance this weekend, or at the earliest Monday...... I at least would like to ride it the rest of the season and then start a rebuild. but who knows....Life is a turn, lean into it!!!
 
#6 · (Edited)
Im not too familiar with the vintage Triumph's (even though it almost much sounds clutch related, but he fact you could push start it, and not kick start it makes it sound a lot more serious). Id consider the possibility of a stripped gear somewhere around the starter planetary.
Here are a few people that very much know Triumph's. Perhaps they'd know what to do. Their local dealers here in my city (Calgary).

Call Mark at TJ's cycles
(403) 252-3030

The old motorcycle shop
403.261.0034

Thats about all I can suggest really, too bad you're not closer. Some of them would have it back on the road in no time at all. Good luck!
 
#8 ·
started taking things off the bike.

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I was inspecting everything on the primary side and did not see anything out of the ordinary. no metal shavings, no sludge build up, so i am thinking this is great.

I then said to myself, how about i just try and see if there is anything at the kick arm. I try to push it down and i was amazed that there was something there. I put the bike into gear and tried rolling the rear tire, would not go forward. Seems as if all the symptoms had disappeared. This was on a cold engine, i was getting problems when the bike was hot....

I also drained all the oil out and did not see anything out of the ordinary. Next step is to take primary side off and inspect clutch....

That is for another this weekend, which i have off.

Thanks for the support. :thumbup:

Joe
 
#11 ·
I just got done with cutting the grass and eating lunch, now it is time for more taking a part and seeing what i find!

This is why I never leave first gear. Learn from me people learn from me.

Hope you get that thing fixed dude looks like a sweet little bike.
:notworthy:

Thanks TWW!
 
#12 ·
She's a beauty. Honestly, save the full restoration for when you're retired or want a trailer queen. They're just not worth it. I say build a rider and fix up little things here and there. You'll get so much more joy out of it. And a little patina is so much better IMO.

Curious to see what pans out with the transmission. I lost 2nd gear on a '62 superhawk a little while ago... turns out one of the spacers between the gears shattered causing 2nd to slide out of alignment against the countershaft. Things on old bikes break. They do on the new ones too, just not as frequently.