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#1 ·
With Yamaha introducing the MT-09 does anyone think that Triumph will introduce a Street Triple with a Daytona 675 engine in it?
 
#42 ·
I can now confirm how awesome the engine is. IMO, Triumph has some catch up to do. Seeing as the engine splits the displacement gap between the 675 and the 1050, you'd expect the FZ09 to fall somewhere in between. It revs like the 675 and has a great transmission. However, it makes a lot more torque everywhere. It doesn't make 1050 torque, but between the faster revs and lighter curb weight, you'd be hard pressed to know it. It wheelies in first and second with complete ease. Not so hard in third, either. First 65 miles returned 35 mpg, though I was NOT easy on the throttle.

I didn't take the bike through stop and go traffic or highway, but I dont have any fueling issues. Very smooth. Same goes for the drive modes. I personally don't think the throttle response is too abrupt. The 675 roll on is softer, but the 1050 is known for its snatch. I'm pleased to say this bike is smoother than the 1050. This comes on a lot harder than the 675, but is easy to get used to. Personally, I don't plan to use the softer engine maps...

Brakes are excellent. I'll be even happier with SS lines and a radial master cylinder, I'm sure. I'm happy to see that Yamaha used their monoblocks and didn't cheap out with a look alike.

The suspension is soft. Very soft. I'm around 180 lbs and have the rear preload maxed. Rebound is nearly maxed out on both ends. So there is a lot of room for improvement. Still, it didnt slow me down much and worked very well over our Pa goat trails. Much better than my Daytona on the rough stuff, but not as good as my Tiger 1050 (with significant suspension work). I'll get this suspension sorted, but I'm pleased it isn't a complete train wreck now that I got the stock stuff dialed in.

Seating position is interesting, but comfy. Very low seat.

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#46 ·
Interesting to read such positive reviews. While I haven't ridden it yet, I hear that it's pretty bad. Like, not worth it bad...

My source is a professional rider and reviewer.
He may be a "professional" rider/reviewer, but in the end it is personal preference on a bike. If consumers like it, they buy it. I personally think it looks cheaply made, but someone else may think it looks like the greatest thing to hit Earth.
 
#48 ·
My bike just hit the dyno today to confirm what we've already known... 104 peak hp with good linear torque throughout. The bike is still breaking in, so possible to pick up another couple HP as it wears in. Transmission continues to impress....at least as good as the 675's.

There are some areas that look cheap: left hand switch gear, shift lever, non adjustable levers, and horn. Personally, I don't care about them. None of em stop me from giggling in my helmet.

The absolute ONLY thing this bike needs to be truly wonderful is a better suspension. Still, $7990 is damn impressive. I continue to be amazed and I've owned a lot of bikes.

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#50 ·
It's Yamaha, I doubt it. If it's not the R1/R6 they don't care, the fueling and suspension will still suck. Look how many people are willing to buy a cheap rough finished bike, why would they spend more money in it. As long as the engine has good power people will buy it and continue to praise it, because it is a Triumph knock off.
 
#52 ·
Maybe Triumph should have patented the 400 lb naked triple. Does the MV infringe on Triumph?

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If it's not an exact copy, of a patent-in-force design, they are not infringing. Patents only last a few years, then you can copy. I see it every day - our competitors all do it, we all know the day a patent expires on a desirable product, lol.
 
#54 ·
I was pretty disappointed to hear about the snatchy throttle response, the suspension and the vague front end. I'm not considering buying one, but I have a buddy who's going to have a look. I expected some compromises for the money, but not getting the FI right (again) is annoying.

We both can't really get past the looks, either,

Why did Yamaha fit a small tank that's still shaped like a tumor? What's with the board-like tail? I won't even discuss the front end. Seems like they got caught between supermotard/dirtbike and naked street bike.

That said, I must say, it looks better in Rich's shots and in some videos I've seen. As most bikes, it probably looks better in person. I hope so.

I really like that there's another triple in the market but I'll be more interested to see the next bike they release with this engine.

In the meantime, I'll go with my friend to have a look and hopefully (but doubtful), a test ride. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised.

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#60 ·
Blah pretty much sums up my feelings about this bike but it looks good, and will sell because of that. I don't care much for bikes with budget running gear and suspension no matter how they look, but this kind of bike is probably what motorcycling as a whole really needs right now to get those new riders in.