Anyone know what stabilzer Quickshifter is running? I see it's a GPR but I'm guessing it's to fit another bike and he got lucky and it fits our 675's. If anyone know's him personally could you ask him for me? Thanks!

-Scott

It is one that the guys at X Bikes made for him.. They are the UK importer for GPR and do help out with fitting kits on bikes which are not so easy to find in the USA. So I would think that GPR will have the info to sell the kits in the US soon enough. I do know both Quickshifter and the guys at GPR. So if you need to know anything else just let me know.

 

Do you know how close to a Scotts damper that is? It looks like the same body. I have a Scotts damper, but they don't currently have any plans to make a bracket for our bikes.

 

Is adjustability the reason for wanting something other than the OE damper?

 

Yes. I have run a Scott's Dampner on both my D6 and my D650. I am used to and like having the steering stiffer than stock. I ran the Scott's at almost full stiff. More dampning is better in my personal opinion. Plus...they do look pretty trick... :twisted:

p.s. I've got a machinist lined up to help me make a mount for both a Scott's/GPR and on Ohlins stick dampner. I guess I will have to call him tomorrow and have him get to work...


-Scott

 

I was wondering why no one is talking of simply putting a high end damper in the stock mounting place. couldn't you find the proper length universal damper from, say, Ohlins, and bolt it right where the stock one is?

 

The Scotts damper is actually made by Ohlins apparently. But was designed as an off road damper. The GPR is similar but is designed for multi use. The oil in the unit can be swapped for different grades easily without being sent to a dealer. Plus the adjustment feels like it has more range compared to the two Scotts units I tried. I use a GPR on my bike and love it ! It works better than a traditional unit and because I like the bike to "talk to me" I have very thin oil in the damper so the adjuster is set at mid point. If I move it to maximum it firms the steering up nicely and at minimum it is almost like I have removed it completly.
I have used traditional dampers when racing but prefer to let the bike slap a little bit. It doesn't upset the bike just the rider but I am used to that and traditional dampers tend to lock even on a light setting if the front slaps. The GPR just softens the slap but I can still feel the bars move. If I wind up the damping then it feels like a more traditional damper.
You do not notice a big difference until you swap from a GPR damper back to a traditional one. The guys using them in BSB like Hawk Kawasaki love them so much they have had theirs etched with the Hawk Logo !!

 

<snip> Plus...they do look pretty trick... :twisted:

Yeah, but then you hide that gorgeous triple clamp!

I was wondering why no one is talking of simply putting a high end damper in the stock mounting place. couldn't you find the proper length universal damper from, say, Ohlins, and bolt it right where the stock one is?

Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Adjusting it would be harder because you can't do it on the fly, but it would be out of your way.

The Scotts damper is actually made by Ohlins apparently. But was designed as an off road damper.

I don't think the first part of that's true. Scotts are made here in the states, but they did get their start off-road. You can service a Scotts yourself also; they recommend you send it in, but the parts and instructions are on their website.

Either way, GPR, Scotts, and Ohlins are all great units.

 

I just got a Ohlins stick dampner in. It's the shortest one they make. It WON'T fit in the stock location. But that's where my machinist buddy comes in. He's going to make me a really nice billet aluminum mount for the top. It should look sweet next to the triple clamp! I'll get pics asap when it's ready.

-Scott

 

I thought I heard that Ohlins bought Scotts a while ago

 

Hmm

Hadn't heard that, and can't find anything about it on the web just yet. But, that doesn't mean much. I'll keep looking.

 

The Scotts damper is actually made by Ohlins apparently. But was designed as an off road damper.[/quote] I don't think the first part of that's true. Scotts are made here in the states, but they did get their start off-road. You can service a Scotts yourself also; they recommend you send it in, but the parts and instructions are on their website.

Here is a link to the Ohlins page.... http://www.ohlins.com/mc_sd_mx.shtml
As you will see it is badged Ohlins. There are a few reasons for them being marked up as Scotts. Ohlins made the original design apparently and then sub contracted manufacture to another company (Scotts) like they do with many of their products. They allow Scotts to brand the product as is could clash with the normal dampers they make but either way Ohlins make money from the rotary damper.

Sorry to be a sad individual with no real life outside motorcycles. I have my own business so I have to know what is what. If I get it wrong customers will not trust what advice we give so I have made it my business to know as much as possible.

 

OK, back to my question. They look very similar and mount the same way. I have a Scotts already, whether it is better/worse/the same. I just don't have a way to mount it. Does a GPR bracket work with a Scotts damper?

I don't have a life, either! :?

 

They do mount differently. Sorry.
Personally I feel the GPR works better and has a better action for sportbike use. The Scotts damper is designed for MX bikes which have more leverage through the wider bars. It can be harsh on a bike with narrow bars unless the oil is spot on and set exactly right. But the GPR has a wider range of adjustment and the sportbike versions are very smooth that gives it a big advantage over the Scotts.
I admit I am biased as I have used a GPR for a couple of years. I had one of the first in the country and know the guys at GPR quite well. They have put a lot of work into making it as good as anything Ohlins are making at the moment plus the ease of rebuilding and bleeding make it very practical.

 

We have just fitted a Sprint Damper to try which will the aid of a spacer slots right in to the O/E position. Not as good as the GPR but they are going to increase the damping so I will let you know the result.

 

I would prefer a top mounted unit anyways that way I can adjust the height of the triple clamps without running into the stock unit.

 

I would prefer a top mounted unit anyways that way I can adjust the height of the triple clamps without running into the stock unit.

We have started making a unit to fit the GPR damper, at the moment they are ali but in 6 weeks or so they will be made from a very strong plastic and available in henry ford colours. :lol: