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WOW!
After signing Luca and the bike is getting truly sorted, they now jump ship?
Sounds like Triumph wont be a front now without this happening, guess i am back to pulling for the good old GREEN TEAM!
 

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Friggin Italians, I hope this is only a rumor too.

That is not good news at all, Davis was the only really quick guy on the Triumph's and great to watch.
Its about time Triumph found a British Team to run their bikes for them...........
 

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Sad to see Chaz move on, he definiatly was doing well on the Triumph.
With that said I have to believe HE is better off on the Yamaha and stands a better chance of getting on the podium so it was probably a good career move on his part.
Lets face it, as a racer you want to be on the best equipment possible and on a team that gives you the best chance at winning.

They have done great work with the Triumph but it has to be at it's maximum capability at this point. The bike is essentially unchanged since it's debut in 2006 and I don't know if the teams can get much more out of it (at the WSS level). They have had 5-6 years to tweak on it at this point.

Either way, Chaz seems to be a good guy and I hope he does well what ever he rides.


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I just remembered seeing on Twitter that Chaz had some big news lined up for Monday (today)

Chaz Davies
Some big news to come later today. BIG I tell you!
Chaz Davies
Announcement coming on Monday now! Anyway, good day today. Finally got the kart out and got a PB lap time in the freezing cold. Feet = ice.
This is probably it! As a career move it's a good thing, but man he was the one person who could really ride that Triumph.
 

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That really stinks in my opinion. Not that Chaz really had any say in the matter... My personal incentive to watch WSS just went way down!!

Best of luck, Chaz.

Seriously though, I think this indicates that Triumph has no real intention of winning anything in WSS. Also as mentioned above... the 675 design is a bit long in the tooth technically.
 

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Just found this:

Provisional WSS 2011 Entry List

N° Rider Nat Motorcycle Team name
4 Gino Rea GBR Honda CBR600RR Step Racing Team
5 Alexander Lundh SWE Honda CBR600RR Cresto Guide Racing Team
7 Chaz Davies GBR Yamaha YZF R6 Yamaha ParkinGO Team
8 Bastien Chesaux SUI Honda CBR600RR MACH - Moto Academy Swiss
9 Luca Scassa ITA Yamaha YZF R6 Yamaha ParkinGO Team
10 Imre Toth HUN Honda CBR600RR Team Hungary Toth
11 Sam Lowes GBR Honda CBR600RR Parkalgar Honda
19 Mitchell Pirotta AUS Honda CBR600RR KUJA Racing
21 Florian Marino FRA Honda CBR600RR Hannspree Ten Kate Honda
22 Roberto Tamburini ITA Yamaha YZF R6 Bike Service R.T.
23 Broc Parkes AUS Kawasaki ZX-6R Kawasaki Motocard.com
24 Eduard Blokhin RUS Yamaha YZF R6 RivaMoto
25 Marko Jerman SLO Triumph Daytona 675 MD Team Jerman
28 Pawel Szkopek POL Honda CBR600RR Bogdanka PTR Honda
31 Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA Kawasaki ZX-6R Lorenzini by Leoni
34 Ronan Quarmby RSA Triumph Daytona 675 Suriano Racing Team
38 Balazs Nemeth HUN Honda CBR600RR Team Hungary Toth
44 David Salom ESP Kawasaki ZX-6R Kawasaki Motocard.com
52 Michele Conti ITA Honda CBR600RR KUJA Racing
55 Massimo Roccoli ITA Kawasaki ZX-6R Lorenzini by Leoni
60 Vladimir Ivanov UKR Honda CBR600RR Step Racing Team
69 Ondrej Jezek CZE Honda CBR600RR SMS Racing
73 Oleg Pozdneev RUS Yamaha YZF R6 RivaMoto
77 James Ellison GBR Honda CBR600RR Bogdanka PTR Honda
87 Luca Marconi ITA Yamaha YZF R6 Bike Service R.T.
91 Danilo Dell'Omo ITA Triumph Daytona 675 Suriano Racing Team
99 Fabien Foret FRA Honda CBR600RR Hannspree Ten Kate Honda
117 Miguel Praia POR Honda CBR600RR Parkalgar Honda
127 Robbin Harms DEN Honda CBR600RR Benjan Racing Team

Guess I'll be rooting for #34 this season!

Also found this: http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/latest-news/4946-triumph-and-be1-end-agreement.html

Triumph Motorcycles Ltd and BE1 Racing Srl have ended their agreement to compete in the Supersport World Championship with immediate effect.
 

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Great...so now we won't even see a Triumph unless one has a spectacular crash with a Honda, Yamaha, or Kawaski...if they crash on there own it won't be worth showing.

Good news for Chaz though, he'll be on a much more competetive bike, if he could get the 675 on the box imagine what he can do with an R6.
 

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Where you guys been? Been out there since December...

Press release: http://www.be1racing.com/daytona_675_news.php

Truly sucks. No more Factory Triumph.

There are three Triumph riders listed in today's provisional roster, although the MD team is "supposed" to field another bike/rider...

http://motomatters.com/2011/wss/provisional-rider-list.html

"While it isn't known whether Triumph will transfer its factory involvement to another team - or withdraw altogether -, the British marque will still be represented in 2011 by Suriano Racing and MD Team Jerman.

The announcement will also raise serious doubts as to whether whether Triumph will go ahead with a much mooted switch to Superbikes in 2012, with BE1 Racing apparently originally earmarked to lead its development programme."

"The Suriano Racing team, headed by 'veteran' engineer Antonio Suriano, is getting ready to return as a key figure in the SBK Paddock after a couple of year's absence. The team based near Rome is currently finalizing a deal that should see it take part in next year's World Supersport Championship. A return to Supersport will also coincide with the team switching from Suzuki to the British manufacturer Triumph, maintaining at four the number of bikes present in the championship. Once the accord has been finalized, Suriano will then focus on the choice of riders, which will be announced immediately afterwards.
"I have to admit that the project that has been presented to me is a good one and I am really tempted by the idea of taking back my team to World Supersport with Triumph," declared Suriano. "We'll try and sign the deal in the next few days and then we will decide on the riders. The aim is to take part in 2011 with two riders and for the moment the only thing I can say is that I've reached a verbal agreement with Danilo Dell'Omo and Fabrizio Perotti"."

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14012011/23/wss-suriano-confirms-triumph-entry.html
 

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Sad to see Chaz move on, he definiatly was doing well on the Triumph.
With that said I have to believe HE is better off on the Yamaha and stands a better chance of getting on the podium so it was probably a good career move on his part.
Lets face it, as a racer you want to be on the best equipment possible and on a team that gives you the best chance at winning.

They have done great work with the Triumph but it has to be at it's maximum capability at this point. The bike is essentially unchanged since it's debut in 2006 and I don't know if the teams can get much more out of it (at the WSS level). They have had 5-6 years to tweak on it at this point.

Either way, Chaz seems to be a good guy and I hope he does well what ever he rides.
Except they're on 2 year old Yamaha's... Nothing new or super competative there; with no factory support yet.

Chaz didn't make the call, BE1 and Triumph couldn't come to a contractual deal... BE1's riders got screwed.
 

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yeah well i think it sucks!!!!
 

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Except they're on 2 year old Yamaha's... Nothing new or super competative there; with no factory support yet.

Chaz didn't make the call, BE1 and Triumph couldn't come to a contractual deal... BE1's riders got screwed.
Better a 2 year old Yamaha then a 5 year old Triumph. And I think the stats speak for themselves. As much as I love my Triumph the R6 is a more competitive bike. Also the article states that they are on a Factory ride.

I also don't think the riders got screwed at all, Triumph screwed the pooch if you ask me. Again, love my Triumph but I think Chaz will do better on the Yamaha. Time will tell and we'll have to follow what happens through out the season.

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Better a 2 year old Yamaha then a 5 year old Triumph. And I think the stats speak for themselves. As much as I love my Triumph the R6 is a more competitive bike. Also the article states that they are on a Factory ride.

I also don't think the riders got screwed at all, Triumph screwed the pooch if you ask me. Again, love my Triumph but I think Chaz will do better on the Yamaha. Time will tell and we'll have to follow what happens through out the season.
Read it more carefully. They are getting two year old former-factory Yamaha's; Yamaha is still not involved in WSS, so no factory support was my point.

When I say they got screwed, I really mean several things:
1) The riders didn't have a choice of machinery.
2) All the work they've done on their training and riding style to make the Trumpet go fast, will have to be reworked.
3) All the work the team had done, to make the Trumpet go fast, will have to be reworked on the Yamaha's.
4) The development of the Yamaha's will have to start from scratch.
5) The team will get precious little testing and development time, since the decision was made so late in the off season; they're starting behind the 8 ball.

I'm not debating the older tech of the Trumpet, or the competitiveness of the Yamaha; but it's gonna be tougher going from brand new model (the article talks about the 675R's) Trumpets, even though they are long in the tooth, vs. two year old, used Yamaha's; especially with such short training, testing and development time.

By the way, I'm not poo-pooing the BE1 team at all, and I'm confident Chaz will adapt and overcome; everyone may be right, and he may even do better. I'm more pissed at Triumph for not getting a clue on how this class is there's to own, if they'd put some backing into it. It's their only niche, and none of the other factories are really trying, so they have a chance; but, alas, they've crapped that all away now.

Note, the Suriano Racing team doesn't get cool new 675R's that "Triumph was looking forward to fielding with BE1"; oh no, they get BE1's used bikes from last year...

Wasted opportunities...
 

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Also, did no one notice the little bit about SBK?

"The announcement will also raise serious doubts as to whether whether Triumph will go ahead with a much mooted switch to Superbikes in 2012, with BE1 Racing apparently originally earmarked to lead its development programme."

How was Triumph going to get into WSBK in 2012, with or without BE1 Racing leading the development? With what Superbike?
 

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Read it more carefully. They are getting two year old former-factory Yamaha's; Yamaha is still not involved in WSS, so no factory support was my point.

When I say they got screwed, I really mean several things:
1) The riders didn't have a choice of machinery.
2) All the work they've done on their training and riding style to make the Trumpet go fast, will have to be reworked.
3) All the work the team had done, to make the Trumpet go fast, will have to be reworked on the Yamaha's.
4) The development of the Yamaha's will have to start from scratch.
5) The team will get precious little testing and development time, since the decision was made so late in the off season; they're starting behind the 8 ball.

I'm not debating the older tech of the Trumpet, or the competitiveness of the Yamaha; but it's gonna be tougher going from brand new model (the article talks about the 675R's) Trumpets, even though they are long in the tooth, vs. two year old, used Yamaha's; especially with such short training, testing and development time.

By the way, I'm not poo-pooing the BE1 team at all, and I'm confident Chaz will adapt and overcome; everyone may be right, and he may even do better. I'm more pissed at Triumph for not getting a clue on how this class is there's to own, if they'd put some backing into it. It's their only niche, and none of the other factories are really trying, so they have a chance; but, alas, they've crapped that all away now.

Note, the Suriano Racing team doesn't get cool new 675R's that "Triumph was looking forward to fielding with BE1"; oh no, they get BE1's used bikes from last year...

Wasted opportunities...
Good points but Davies is a professional rider and has ridden for Yamaha (R6 for Celtic racing) in the past so I'm sure he will come up to speed very quickly.

As far as the 675 "R" goes that's just a marketing branding for the street. There is nothing different about that bike then last year or the year before. The motor is exactly the same. Sure it comes with Ohlins but the WSS bikes have already been running tricked out Bitubo suspension which I am sure is much better then the stock Ohlins on the R.

Which goes back to my feelings about Triumph slapping some suspension and brakes on the bike and calling it a "R" version. Most other manufacturers really trick out the motors, exhaust, suspension, wheels, body work etc. when they slap a "R" designation on a bike. Doesn't really matter for WSS anyway, they are going to strip it down and put trick aftermarket stuff on it anyway.

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Another spectacular fail from Triumph racing department...

And they were going to WSBK with the 675, of course :biggrinjester:
 

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Hi All,

New to this forum but not to racing. I generally don't post but after reading the wild comments on here ...... some corrections.

"That is not good news at all, Davis was the only really quick guy on the Triumph's and great to watch." - Scassa was quick in testing.

"Note, the Suriano Racing team doesn't get cool new 675R's that "Triumph was looking forward to fielding with BE1"; oh no, they get BE1's used bikes from last year..." - doubt that, If I were Triumph I would give them the Davies/Scassa kit. They're a company, not stupid....

"Great...so now we won't even see a Triumph unless one has a spectacular crash with a Honda, Yamaha, or Kawaski...if they crash on there own it won't be worth showing." Have a look at the grid, Triumph should do top ten.

ParkinGo get full factory support including all of Crutchlow's data, and bikes are all refreshed. But let's remember that 2002 WSS champion, Foret, only finished 5th in 2009.

Although the Suriano team will only get to test the WSS bikes in Phillip Island Quarmby tested the stock Daytona and was quicker than on his championship winning stock Yamaha. Seems Triumph is better suited to taller riders.

And shame on Yamaha - they could have drafted Yamaha riders who have supported and given them success. Both Tamburini and Quarmby won their respective countries Supersport titles on R6's last year. They also had access to a top Yamaha BSB team of engineers. Yes, I know they wouldn't win the championship this year but invest in the future !!!! These kids are both only 19.

If we don't support and develop the new blood then we may as well start converting the paddocks, trucks, etc to accommodate easy access for the aged.
 

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You clearly underestimate Triumph's stupidity when dealing with racing politics, and testing is not racing.
 
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