Sorry to start yet another of these, but I've been struggling with this for at least six months, I think I've finally eliminated most of the possibilities, and now I could use some advice. My 08 Stripple with the 3-1 Arrow (wrecked and cut off for inadvertent custom megaphone, loud pipes save lives, but make for half-deaf riders) and Arrow tune began having intermittent problems with stalling at idle, (stop-lights, heavy traffic) after a few months, that problem fixed itself and hasn't come back :noclue:. . . A few weeks later the bike began having a no-start issue, The instrument panel would turn on, but I wouldn't even get a click from the starter relay when I hit the button. I thought it might be the R/R, so I began taking my trickle charger to work and leaving it plugged in until I was ready to go home. This worked sometimes, other times I could leave the bike in gear and bump the motor then and she'd start just fine. This just got worse until NOTHING would make her turn. So I began troubleshooting, the tip over switch checks out on TuneEcu, the clutch switch checks out with an ohm-meter and on TuneEcu, as does the side stand switch. The kill switch and starter switch test out ok, and I get continuity and clicks through all the relays when I pull and check them with the battery. I tested everything on the bars. I couldn't find any fault or indication of where the problem is until I decided to jump direct from pin 3 to pin 5 of the starter circuit relay connector with the relay pulled, she fired right up. . . My thought is that this means no power to the coil inside the relay, either through a faulty wire, (Red-White to start switch, or Yellow-Brown to ECU) or a faulty ECU. Can anyone suggest other components to troubleshoot or see a solution that I missed? I don't wanna ghetto-rig a switch to the relay, I'd rather have it right. Also I'm on an island with no dealership, and I don't feel like spending the extra 1K to ship her to Oahu and back.