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...Triumph needs to do something because the FZ-09 is stealing it's thunder..
Unless Yamaha vastly upgrades some of the componentry on the FZ-09, Triumph will never be able to compete with the Yammie's low price tag. In the USA the dollar is king, most folks will go with the cheaper option, especially after you factor in how prevalent Yamaha dealerships are compared to Triumph dealerships.
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For the potential price of what a 800 costs, I'd look into force induction as it would probably be cheaper and make a lot more power and torque.

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For the potential price of what a 800 costs, I'd look into force induction as it would probably be cheaper and make a lot more power and torque.

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I was about to say it wouldn't be as reliable, but then I remembered @NAK3D 's 225HP turbo ST3 still going strong after a few years at those levels. However, his setup is definitely not cheaper.

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I was about to say it wouldn't be as reliable, but then I remembered @NAK3D 's 225HP turbo ST3 still going strong after a few years at those levels. However, his setup is definitely not cheaper.

Idk, the 800 will more than likely be a 14k bike.

A used Daytona/street for 5 grand, another 5 grand for a solid turbo setup and you'd have a lot more powerful bike.

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Idk, the 800 will more than likely be a 14k bike.

A used Daytona/street for 5 grand, another 5 grand for a solid turbo setup and you'd have a lot more powerful bike.
$5,000.00 for a 'solid' turbo setup? ....... not sure how 'solid' it would be. Although if you are very handy and knowledgeable with good contacts, I guess it may work?

If you decide to turbocharge it, just make sure you don't cut any corners or cheap out anywhere. Even little things like Fuel Pressure Regs etc that you think you can save money on - don't do it. Get the best hardware for the job, something that will last longer than the bike itself.

Build it to last, it will be cheaper in the long run.

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Unless Yamaha vastly upgrades some of the componentry on the FZ-09, Triumph will never be able to compete with the Yammie's low price tag. In the USA the dollar is king, most folks will go with the cheaper option, especially after you factor in how prevalent Yamaha dealerships are compared to Triumph dealerships.
I'm a huge proponent of throwing daytona cams on a street triple. Completely transformed my 12 STR. On the dyno it made 115HP and it was almost 95 degrees with 98% humidity. It will eat 600's and Fz09's for lunch @ the track.

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Unless Yamaha vastly upgrades some of the componentry on the FZ-09, Triumph will never be able to compete with the Yammie's low price tag. In the USA the dollar is king, most folks will go with the cheaper option, especially after you factor in how prevalent Yamaha dealerships are compared to Triumph dealerships.


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I'm a huge proponent of throwing daytona cams on a street triple. Completely transformed my 12 STR. On the dyno it made 115HP and it was almost 95 degrees with 98% humidity. It will eat 600's and Fz09's for lunch @ the track.
That's a nice mod, but what does it have to do with my quotation? lol

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I've got the bad feeling that Triumph will dump the Daytona when the 800cc Street will be on the market.
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post #39 of 83 Old 02-11-16, 17:06
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I would be shocked if they dump the daytona. It is their only "sport" bike. I think it would be horrible for them. I personally never even considered a triumph till walking past a daytona on the showroom. Now i want to buy a st3 for street, but again without the daytona i would not have been a buyer.

If it doesn't fit force it, if it breaks it needs replaced anyway.
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My thoughts are that bike engines might need to increase in cc to keep the same power output. Euro4 regulations have already done that with a few European bikes. The Ducati "small superbike" is up to a 959 now from 899cc. That's near enough a 1000cc. Yamaha, BMW and MV are all producing 800's. The 675 is a cracking engine, but new bikes will be strangled by the euro4 regs. The only other way to go is down, lots of sub 400cc bikes nowadays.
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