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Correct it should go in the raised tube. Plugging the drain can only lead to issues. The vent tube on the Driven cap I have fits right down the vent tube. You may need to get a different vent hose. The TWM cap looks pretty small like water is going to drop into the filler neck regardless.
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Correct it should go in the raised tube. Plugging the drain can only lead to issues. The vent tube on the Driven cap I have fits right down the vent tube. You may need to get a different vent hose. The TWM cap looks pretty small like water is going to drop into the filler neck regardless.
I don't think I could fit any vinyl tube down the raised vent tube, the hole is really small. Maybe my raised vent tube is damaged because it's got a significant taper. Additionally, I don't think the barb where the vinyl tube connects to the fuel cap will accept a smaller vinyl tube. Maybe I'll purchase a driven gas cap if I have issues with this one. Thats what I don't like about purchasing aftermarket, parts are expensive and fitment is hit or miss. I guess I'll just have to be diligent about removing standing water before I gas up. Thanks again for all your help!

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I checked my bike last night and here is what I found. MacBandit, you are absolutely correct on how the stock cap, vent, and drain works. Both drain and vents go out of the bike through the rubber hoses underneath the tank and out to the ground. In some model bikes (probably all by now), the vent goes through the charcoal canister for EVAP like you mentioned.
For specifically the TWM cap we have, the vent/drain tube on the base can technically go into either hole as long as it fits. For my bike, the tube will not fit down the vent tube either as it is too small of a diameter like BMila01's bike. Therefore, I used the drain hole as TWM recommends. Based on how the cap base is designed, it looks like it is meant to be a vent and a drain for overflow/water. The underside of the base of the TWM cap (the part that gets screwed onto the top of the tank) has a large rubber washer that is meant to "seal" the filler neck of the tank from the lower drain area. (I say "seal" because it's definitely not a 100% watertight seal, but it would prevent overfills from leaking into that part of the tank area). The fuel would then rise up to the drain/vent hole in the new cap base and drain out.

This leads to question of where liquids from an outside source (rain, hose, super-soakers!?) will drain out if the tube from the new cap goes down the drain tube hole in the tank. I water-tested my fuel cap last night by pouring water all over the tank and fuel cap and letting it sit for about 10-15 minutes. I opened the cap and then unscrewed the base to see if any water got inside. It was absolutely dry and the drain did its part. My bike has also sat out uncovered during 2 rainy (pouring) track days in between sessions, and I have not had an issue then either. Of course, this doesn't mean that is 100% waterproof and everyone should trust me. I am just describing my experiences with the TWM cap.

ON the other hand twist lock caps could work if the outer piece had a machined well around the cap itself so water could drain around instead of being trapped above the seal.
The cap for the TWM is pretty close that what you are describing. The cap fits tight but there is a very, tiny, tiny, gap around the cap that allows standing water to drain out of the vent/drain hole of the cap base. The O-ring of the cap itself also helps keep water from entering the filler hole.

My experience with my TWM fuel cap may not be the same for others, but I can say that it works for me as expected.
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Correct it should go in the raised tube. Plugging the drain can only lead to issues. The vent tube on the Driven cap I have fits right down the vent tube. You may need to get a different vent hose. The TWM cap looks pretty small like water is going to drop into the filler neck regardless.
I don't think I could fit any vinyl tube down the raised vent tube, the hole is really small. Maybe my raised vent tube is damaged because it's got a significant taper. Additionally, I don't think the barb where the vinyl tube connects to the fuel cap will accept a smaller vinyl tube. Maybe I'll purchase a driven gas cap if I have issues with this one. Thats what I don't like about purchasing aftermarket, parts are expensive and fitment is hit or miss. I guess I'll just have to be diligent about removing standing water before I gas up. Thanks again for all your help!

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You could always just remove the lock from your stock cap if your worried about it getting stuck. Alternatively if you decide to buy something different I’ll sell you my driven for a really good price.
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Ive been using the TWM cap from UKRS for awhile now with many wet track days. Have had zero issues with water draining.
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