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post #1 of 18 Old 01-23-19, 13:28 Thread Starter
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Finally: 13+ 675 motor in 2nd gen daytona

After having been distracted by so many other projects, and not riding nearly as much as I was, it is time to finally tackle this project.


I will be installing a 2015 675R motor into my 2011 675R chassis. Based on my previous research and assessing of what is what between the 2 motors, it should be a pretty straight forward install. After install and making sure all checks out, the bikes 2011 ECU will be fine tuned using tuneecu, and dyno tuned by 2 wheel dyno works (Nels).


The project will reuse the following parts from the 2011:
Airbox-with BMC air filter
Throttlebodies
Fuel injectors
R/R- (this needs to have some rewiring to match up to the stator in the new motor)
Radiator- this is a maybe it will, or wont work item..
09-12 Akrapovic full system..... very interested to see how this system performs, with the longer overall piping. pretty sure a low mount would be more HP, but less torque.


More to come, as I am hoping to have the new motor shipped out to me this week.. Will post up the other motor, which has no issues up on here as well.

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2011- Triumph Daytona 675R
2003- Kawasaki ZX-6RR

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Lots of pictures please . Help make a long winter interesting and give me the ich I can't scratch yet!
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2011 675R

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Best of both worlds, IMHO. 2nd gen chassis with 2nd gen ECU and 3rd gen motor. Watching with interest.
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Round 1

Tore the bike down, got the old motor out, easy enough.
swapped my red valve cover from the 2011 onto the 2015 motor since the parts are the same, happy about that.
Installed new motor, went easy enough, then went to figuring out what was what and needing to be swapped.

1. The 13+ motor does not use a speed sensor on the upper case, it has a blanking plug.. pulled it from the 2011 motor. Guessing the 13 pulls from either the back wheel, or possibly the 4th wire on the gear position sensor?

2. The gear position sensor is different between the bikes, not exactly sure why the newer bike has a 4th wire, but it does, swapped on the 3 wire unit from my 2011..bolts right on.

3. Throttle bodies went right on, no issue and pretty straight forward.

4. The grounding point for the wire harness on the motor, is in a different location, nothing major.

5. There is a 2 wire connector off the stator (crank position sensor) and this has a different plug on it, but it connects into the stock harness fine.. maybe add some tape for additional security, or splice new plugs on, which i will do in the future.

6. Here is where i need to check some wiring diagrams. The 3 wire stator plug is different, so again a case of needing to change the plug, but i need to figure which wires need to mate up correctly.. not looking to have an electrical issue or catch something on fire.

7. Depending on what radiator you are using, you can use the older one or the new one. I am using the older one, and will use most of the samco hose kit i have, although i will need to modify the lower radiator hose.

8. Exhaust header, I am going to reuse my 2011 akrapovic system... initially there seems to be some resistance to slide right on, but i am about done for the day, and will tinker with it later. more to follow.

Thus far has been straightforward and not to bad, will try and get some some pics up tomorrow. Should have her ready to be fired up next weekend.

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1. I thought the speed sensor in the 2013+ was in the ABS module, using the ABS ring?
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1. I thought the speed sensor in the 2013+ was in the ABS module, using the ABS ring?

yes ^^, but on the 2nd gen we do not have a abs ring, as we have a sensor on the upper engine case, by the low oil pressure sending unit.. and well on the 13+ motor there is the same mounting point for the sensor the 1/2nd gen motor uses, but it has a plastic blanking plug in it.
Remove that, put in your speed sensor from your 1/2 gen motor and presto.

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I gotcha. I thought the 11-12 model R's had ABS. I guess not.
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The 3 wires that come from the stator and go to the R/R connector are position agnostic - whichever way you put their terminals into the plug makes no difference.
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Made some progress the last day, and have had to order a few more things.

1. My akrapovic header from my 09-12 bike will not work with the 13+ up oil pan..
debated if i wanted to see if the oil pans were compatible, but going to go another route.
have a cat delete stock header coming in for now.. will make/weld on short section to work with the akra slip on....

2. Was going to just put my 2011 samco hose kit on this motor, but i would be one short, due to the differences in design, so ordering new ones.

3. put the bodywork mounting brackets back on the motor and all bolt right on, but one needs some grinding to fit.

4. had to order a few odds and ends since the shifter rod was damaged on the motor i bought.

Trying to wait till everything is sorted before selling parts from the old motor... Pretty sure will be posting up the akra header, yoyodyne slipper clutch, samco hose kit, 3 piece woodcraft billet covers.

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