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post #1 of 14 Old 10-17-19, 23:32 Thread Starter
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When is a Motorcycle Considered old?

I got my 2012 675R 2 years old and I know its only 7 years old but that doesn't seem that old to me. I thought Maybe 10 years would be considered old. I'm starting have little things fail on my bike. My kickstand doesn't retract like it use to, I have to check bolt tension more often than before. In the past I would check bolts on my bike every 7 or 8 months and most were tight except for the 2 on my kickstand, and it was always my kickstand bolts. Now I'm noticing more bolts loose. She is drinking a little coolant, burning a little oil, my side marker bulbs working when they want lol! Now I am looking at these new bikes with these LCD displays that say " Welcome (Your Name) to your Brand New (Insert make and model)" with all these fancy options. I am looking at my bikes old Analog gauges telling her "its ok baby, I am not going to sell you. Its all show no go" I was checking my fuel level on a group ride one day and another ride ask "What are you doing? Your bike doesn't have a fuel gauge?" Nope, just a fuel light to let me know I have a 1/2 gallon left.

What really got me, is my bike is 407lbs these new 1000cc bikes weigh 440lbs - 460lbs about the same overall size as my Daytona with at least 50hp - 80hp more! That's a big jump in power to weight ratio for a motorcycle. I use to be able to hang with the Liter bikes in the twisties and now they are just as agile as I am with more power. So now I am wondering whats the point of a 600cc bike now?

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If the bike is no longer making you happy get a new one. I think you are stuck on this "should" etc. If you want to go faster than your friends do track days and get training. On some tracks the personal best for some riders in motor America on a 600 and on a 1000 is less than a second apart.

But we do this to have fun. Get a new bike if you want one. Also put some blue loctite on the kickstand bolts.

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If the bike is no longer making you happy get a new one. I think you are stuck on this "should" etc. If you want to go faster than your friends do track days and get training. On some tracks the personal best for some riders in motor America on a 600 and on a 1000 is less than a second apart.

But we do this to have fun. Get a new bike if you want one. Also put some blue loctite on the kickstand bolts.

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I completely agree with everything Razgreeze said. Technology in bikes is constantly improving; lighter materials, more powerful engines, better suspension. But, older bikes can certainly be setup to be faster and more agile, as well. So it really becomes a matter of "do you want to invest in what you have? Or start over from scratch?" Sounds like you already have your mind made up, though. Me personally, I'm not a fan of liter bikes, for kind of the same reasons I traded in my Harley Road King for my Triple. Just too much bulk for my 160 pound a** to throw around. I felt right at home on the road track Monday though. That was my first time on a road track.

And yeah. Blue Loctite those bolts so they stop rattling loose.
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Liter bikes sacrifice handling for power....which, lets be honest, doesn't matter when you're sitting in traffic next to that guy on a sweet 675. Besides, using 90% of a smaller motor is a helluva lot more fun than only using 30% of a larger one. Not to mention cheaper insurance, maintenance and overall operating cost. If a day finally comes when I'm not ripping around on my 2014 Street Triple R I'm going to build a plinth for it in my house in honor of every mile of endless joy that bike has provided me with. (Race bikes on the other hand are tools to get your ass over the line and I don't show them the same level of loyalty)

As for when is a bike "old?"



I built this 1950 Triumph from the ground up and I still ride it like it's a new bike. Sure I show her mechanical respect, but in my head it's not an "old bike" ;)
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I have the new bike itch all the time... until I ride my bike and then nothing else matters.

Non bike people think it looks like a new modern bike just based on looks and are surprised when I tell them it's an 07

Only reason I would like something new is because I wouldn't have to do maintenance anytime soon

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I personally don't care to be the Fast guy even tho I kind of am in my little group. I enjoy teaching new riders and riding 2up with girls more. I was unknowingly fast on my stock 09 D675 (1st bike) just trying to find my limits and the bikes limits. Then when I got the 675R I was constantly competing with my younger self on roads and tracks I know, trying to get back to that level of skill. Once I did, I was good and now I ride differently


I still love the bike , looks, feel and all. You guys hit it on the head I have the "new bike itch" .
Roughly I have had the same bike since 2011, so its time for something different. Now it all makes sense...


The wife and I both want Apes but she wants the sportsbike while I want the naked version.


P.S. as far as the loctite I keep 1 in my motorcycle bag, 1 in the garage with my bike stuff and 1 at work. what's happening is some of the holes are starting to lose their threads from the bolts vibrating and backing out. I need to retap some the holes and either use a bigger bolt with loctite or just retap them with loctite.

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A bike is only old if you neglect it.

My 1996 VFR750 daily commuter is better than it was new. I put on braided brake & clutch lines, modern rubber, dropped some weight and modernized the charging system and shifting mechanism. I maintain it to nearly the same standard as my race bike - it regularly gets new fluids, suspension service, chain cleaning & lube every 200 miles and yes, I even take off the kickstand, clean it and lube it. I was eyeing 2015 VFR800's a few years ago, then realized I can make my bike do all the same stuff and save around $6k. Now I have everything a modern bike has, but I don't have to deal with annoying ABS, ultra-sensitive traction control or a weight gain of 30-40 lbs.

Same goes for pretty much everything in the stable. 1993 NSR250R, 1984 RZ350, my dad's 1959 Triumph TR6...all of them still run great and bring a smile to my face because I give a sht about them. My 2015 675R is probably the most "tired" bike I have, because it's race-only and gets ridden hard.

If you're tired of your bike, admit it and get something else.
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A bike is only old if you neglect it.

My 1996 VFR750 daily commuter is better than it was new. I put on braided brake & clutch lines, modern rubber, dropped some weight and modernized the charging system and shifting mechanism. I maintain it to nearly the same standard as my race bike - it regularly gets new fluids, suspension service, chain cleaning & lube every 200 miles and yes, I even take off the kickstand, clean it and lube it. I was eyeing 2015 VFR800's a few years ago, then realized I can make my bike do all the same stuff and save around $6k. Now I have everything a modern bike has, but I don't have to deal with annoying ABS, ultra-sensitive traction control or a weight gain of 30-40 lbs.

Same goes for pretty much everything in the stable. 1993 NSR250R, 1984 RZ350, my dad's 1959 Triumph TR6...all of them still run great and bring a smile to my face because I give a sht about them. My 2015 675R is probably the most "tired" bike I have, because it's race-only and gets ridden hard.

If you're tired of your bike, admit it and get something else.
I've been turning wrenches for over a decade now, old to me is when you are doing a simple job and something brakes. I had cars old as your bike that had the oil fill cap top piece brake off, and valve cover gaskets so hard and dry that they leaked when adding oil back to the vehicle.

She is feeling old because a lot of little things are starting to fail, and its starting to become common. My bike is very well maintained its the cosmetic stuff that needs some work.

I love my bike, we have been through a lot together including floods, I have done all my own maintenance and mods I don't want to sell her. I was even thinking what if a couple years from now when the Daytona is permanently killed off and a someone at a bike meet says this is their dream bike the last year for the under tail exhaust and offered me $20,000 for the bike. Would I sell her? Naahh what for?


I just have the new bike itch is all, You guys hit the nail on the head. I want to keep my wife in the garage but look for something new fun and younger and different maybe a 2018.

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I don't know, my track bike is a '07 R6. Still runs great :).

Anyone that actually utilizes the extra power of a liter bike in the canyons is going WAY too fast!

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i've been thinking about this too lately, my 2011 R is still a great bike, but its not 'new' anymore, and not even in production anymore. Friend called it a dinosaur the other day

But I dont know what I would even get at this point. I like the triumph because it was unique and not everyone had one, and a ton of kick ass features. Nothing in the triumph lineup fits the bill anymore. So whats to get, Panigale? RSV4? Even if triumph did launch the 765 as a production bike, the HP seems way too low, how is it only 125hp?

So Triumph675.net members, if you were to buy a new bike that is available today, what would you get and why?
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