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post #11 of 16 Old 01-30-19, 15:28
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And I am just the opposite. Dunlop has a harder carcass and "talks" better than any tire I've tried. Michelin is just super numb on the bars, and Pirelli is somewhere in between.


Most racers would say the opposite. Every racer I know that moved from CCS/ASRA to a moto america series, that also had to switch from pirelli to dunlop had one hell of a time getting used to the fact that dunlops will put you on your ass with no heads up what so ever. I have never heard anyone describe a dunlop as a talkative tire.



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I feel the same way about Q3s once you start to pick up the pace at the track. In my experience, they go from gripping to sliding without enough feedback for me as I am used to how Pirellis feel.

Yep exactly.
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Ya i have to be honest I was a really big fan of the Dunlop Q series until I went to a track day picked up a nail and had to swap out for some Pirelli take offs. They then proceeded to blow my mind.

Makes me wonder about all the "oh sh*t" moments i had on the dunlops
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Most racers would say the opposite. Every racer I know that moved from CCS/ASRA to a moto america series, that also had to switch from pirelli to dunlop had one hell of a time getting used to the fact that dunlops will put you on your ass with no heads up what so ever. I have never heard anyone describe a dunlop as a talkative tire.

You said Q3s, not racing tires.
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You said Q3s, not racing tires.

Q3s are roughly what their race tires were a few years ago. All dunlops act roughly the same way/have the same tendencies.
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Hang on, but are we talking road use tyres or track day only? I've got Road 5's on the Striple, and I ride Power RS on my track bike...

On the road / street, I ride more relaxed and don't really push the envelope, BUT the Tyre works fine. Quick to get to temperature, and on the twisties I've not had any of those balls dropping moments... Before I had a set of Bridgestone S20 (I think) and differences in riding feel on the road are negligible...

Track only... I've got a ZX9R which is heavier than any 675, even though the OEM Tyre size is the same (180/55)... I don't use warmers and need about couple of laps to be safe to push. I ride MEDIUM FAST Group (similar to your B + I think) and Tyre gives nothing but confidence. After 3 track days it is starting to look like done... Before the Michelin I had BT023 and had a few of those nice moments... Obviously different purpose Tyre.

I've never tried Pirelli or Dunlop's on track so can't really compare, but I 100% disagree with Michelin being a numb Tyre... As far as I'm concerned, they're very good. And I go as far as saying that they're better than most riders could ever ride...

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Had a few years of running Pilot Power 3s on the street and the beginning of my TD career. Great street tire that holds up in the rain, grips, and gets pretty impressive mileage. If you don't need as much grip, the Pilot Roads have a great reputation for being better at the other two categories.

FWIW, I don't mind Q3s and think they're a pretty impressive TD/street tire as well. Also really like my Pirelli slicks.
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