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02-26-15 22:29
jdgun_13
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Originally Posted by TwoWheeledWonder View Post
I thought it was not coming with headlights, etc. I may have missed it, but thought I read it was not going to be street legal.
The big thing with the M model is the dealership in order to get one had to sell a given amount of previous years R1's... No dealer in Oregon or Washington ST met the standard (so I was told).
02-26-15 21:41
TwoWheeledWonder
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Originally Posted by easbaysav View Post
The R1M is street legal also. It's an R1 with CF bodywork, Ohlins electronic suspension, CCU, wider tire, brushed aluminum tank and swingarm. Aside from that stuff they are essentially the same.

The H2R on the other hand is not street legal.
Ah maybe that is where my brain is failing. I knew there was some version of bike coming that was not street legal.
02-26-15 21:40
easbaysav
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Originally Posted by TwoWheeledWonder View Post
How so? In the US they would not be able to license the M as they are not street legal.

This is the first time a jap bike has brought all this tech, meaning it is getting cheaper to make. Just like in the car world. The higher priced typically start the new tech and it works its way down. Just like ABS for example.


The R1M is street legal also. It's an R1 with CF bodywork, Ohlins electronic suspension, CCU, wider tire, brushed aluminum tank and swingarm. Aside from that stuff they are essentially the same.

The H2R on the other hand is not street legal.
02-26-15 21:36
TwoWheeledWonder
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Originally Posted by jdgun_13 View Post
Since when is the M model not street legal?

I personally would not say the base model is cheap at $16500.. I would say it is more like if you can't beat or match your competitors contact their suppliers and buy the same parts. Or should I say the same stuff Ducati uses.
I thought it was not coming with headlights, etc. I may have missed it, but thought I read it was not going to be street legal.
02-26-15 21:35
jdgun_13
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Originally Posted by TwoWheeledWonder View Post
How so? In the US they would not be able to license the M as they are not street legal.
This is the first time a jap bike has brought all this tech, meaning it is getting cheaper to make. Just like in the car world. The higher priced typically start the new tech and it works its way down. Just like ABS for example.
Since when is the M model not street legal?

I personally would not say the base model is cheap at $16500.. I would say it is more like if you can't beat or match your competitors contact their suppliers and buy the same parts. Or should I say the same stuff Ducati uses.
02-26-15 21:34
TwoWheeledWonder
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Originally Posted by Nastybutler View Post
Like I said, I'm sure there are a few nuts like you :P that will use the CF fairings on the track, but to most people a few grand, even after dropping $20K on a toy, is still a good chunk of change. And to the people who think $20K is chump change, they probably didn't get to that point by being cavalier with their money. ;)
Oh id never drop 20k on a bike, but I would imagine they know the dangers of this sport and that it is going to fall. I am not nuts, hence why I keep my paid off Daytona with beat up fiberglass fairings. Just saying I think the people buying the M will know what they are getting into, and hopefully plan for the future. They may get rid of the carbon fiber, just for the suspension and other bits, but Id keep it on there as it is just as easy to patch carbon fiber as it is fiber glass.
02-26-15 20:59
Nastybutler
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Originally Posted by TwoWheeledWonder View Post
If you are buying a 20k+ bike I doubt you are worried about a few grand in body fairings. Id go carbon fiber if I was racing to make something off it. Dodge has already priced me, I just dont see it worth it right now for my bike as I am just a small fry, but there have been plenty of people here that have had carbon fiber track bikes and street bikes.

Plus Id rather just use what comes on it before buying other race fairings.
Like I said, I'm sure there are a few nuts like you :P that will use the CF fairings on the track, but to most people a few grand, even after dropping $20K on a toy, is still a good chunk of change. And to the people who think $20K is chump change, they probably didn't get to that point by being cavalier with their money. ;)
02-26-15 20:12
TwoWheeledWonder
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Originally Posted by Nastybutler View Post
I'm aware that the body panels are carbon fiber, but how many people are going to leave them on there when they track it? I'm sure a few, but I'd hope most would have sense enough to replace them with race bodywork. Otherwise you'll be looking at a pretty hefty repair bill every time you come off the bike. Maybe these bikes are so nannied now riders will hardly ever crash. It'll be interesting to see.

I just know the carbon fiber isn't much of an incentive for me when trying to justify the added cost since I'd be replacing them immediately with cheap plastic panels which would thankfully eliminate those god awful headlights.
If you are buying a 20k+ bike I doubt you are worried about a few grand in body fairings. Id go carbon fiber if I was racing to make something off it. Dodge has already priced me, I just dont see it worth it right now for my bike as I am just a small fry, but there have been plenty of people here that have had carbon fiber track bikes and street bikes.

Plus Id rather just use what comes on it before buying other race fairings.
02-26-15 20:10
TwoWheeledWonder
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Originally Posted by jdgun_13 View Post
I would wager some $ the majority of the M will be sitting at a bike night near you. The yamaha will possibly get some of the other japanese makers to do something, being they have been losing the techno battle in motorcycling since 2007.
The RSV4, S1000RR & any Ducati SBK since 2007 have been continually bringing the tech!
I am looking fwd to riding the new R1 once it shows up at the local dealer.
How so? In the US they would not be able to license the M as they are not street legal.
This is the first time a jap bike has brought all this tech, meaning it is getting cheaper to make. Just like in the car world. The higher priced typically start the new tech and it works its way down. Just like ABS for example.
02-26-15 17:57
easbaysav
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Originally Posted by Glocken View Post
Aren't the m's already sold out
Not yet. There was an early order program (Premiere Delivery Program), but not all the R1M's were offered at that time. Plus the dealerships who were allotted any R1's or R1M's were hard to find because it was based on previous R1 sales.

Right now the R1 and R1M are available to order, but I still think the R1M is limited to certain dealerships.


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Originally Posted by Nastybutler View Post
I'm aware that the body panels are carbon fiber, but how many people are going to leave them on there when they track it? I'm sure a few, but I'd hope most would have sense enough to replace them with race bodywork. Otherwise you'll be looking at a pretty hefty repair bill every time you come off the bike. Maybe these bikes are so nannied now riders will hardly ever crash. It'll be interesting to see.

I just know the carbon fiber isn't much of an incentive for me when trying to justify the added cost since I'd be replacing them immediately with cheap plastic panels which would thankfully eliminate those god awful headlights.


I'm pretty sure most people racing or tracking the R1M will opt for race glass. That OEM CF isn't going to be cheap.
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