So the wife has officially decided to make the St3RX hers, so the English lass is going to have to share the stable with this Italian Stallion (2015 Tuono V4 R aPRC).
Dealership is out of province and a fair distance away so it'll be another week or so before I work out details, but will likely have it delivered since though it has been a mild winter, I'd prefer to not have to ride it through salt, sand and potentially snow.
Any tips or last second attempts to dissuade me towards another street fighter?
I've read reviews where in direct comparison to say the S1000R, that the initial bite isn't as good and you need more lever pressure to get the same amount of braking. But otherwise, they work well.
welcome to the club. v4=win. like you said, the tuono pads lack an initial bite, but they by no means lack stopping power. after market pads definitely make a difference; some hh pads or the like. some people have gone as far as swapping the master cylinder (just be sure to get the correct ratio for abs/non-abs bikes), but it only helps in modulation imo. pads would be the first mod if you're really not a fan of the stock feel, but i'd give them some miles to proper bed the stockies in before you make a decision.
you'll love the bike. i'm on my forth aprilia and third v4. i can't get enough. a triple and a v4 is a proper garage. if you're in the usa i have some zero mile neon red tuono 1100 factory rims for sale. and a race ecu ('15 and older) for sale as well. if its a '15 and older bike, drop 1 tooth i the front and rock the race for better low speed throttle response. af1 forums are your friend.
I don't mind if the levers require more pressure. If anything I find the St3RX lever a little sensitive on initial bite for my liking. I find a little more pressure often increases sensitivity during threshold braking.
welcome to the club. v4=win. like you said, the tuono pads lack an initial bite, but they by no means lack stopping power. after market pads definitely make a difference; some hh pads or the like. some people have gone as far as swapping the master cylinder (just be sure to get the correct ratio for abs/non-abs bikes), but it only helps in modulation imo. pads would be the first mod if you're really not a fan of the stock feel, but i'd give them some miles to proper bed the stockies in before you make a decision.
you'll love the bike. i'm on my forth aprilia and third v4. i can't get enough. a triple and a v4 is a proper garage. if you're in the usa i have some zero mile neon red tuono 1100 factory rims for sale. and a race ecu ('15 and older) for sale as well. if its a '15 and older bike, drop 1 tooth i the front and rock the race for better low speed throttle response. af1 forums are your friend.
I don't have any tips or anything like that, but I can say that I'm very jealous! I absolutely love the V4. Hopefully you can get everything worked out for it!
I looked long and hard at the Tuono and went with the S1000R. I liked the power and electronics better and a much closer dealer also better part availability. I'm leaving a '13 D675R heavily track modded. I have zero regrets and spent my life snubbing cruise control and heater grips. I don't think I can live without them now!! The riding modes and TC are sublime. Dealer location, their attitude and part availability should be considered. I do like the looks of the Touno better but that is not enough for me.
I had considered the S1000R, the 1290 Superduke, the Brutale 1090RR. In fact had my eye on a matte blue S1000R I was considering real hard.
Now I'm going to jump straight to personal preference, and absolute lack of empirical measure of better/worse. I like bikes with distinct or what I call soul stirring engine notes. It's the reason I got the St3RX. Beyond the engine note, I like good balance between power, handling and brakes. I'd gladly give up a tenth in the 1/4 if it meant a more linear powerband that's more usable in the twisties. Beyond that, I really only like streetfighters. The supersport package with taller bars and less fairings is what I like these days . . . kind of a gentlemen's supersport
And the S1000R just doesn't wow me with it's engine note. In fact, I like the KTM's buzzsaw on crack engine note more then the kinda sterile to me kinda boring typical inline 4 sound. The only inline 4 engines I tend to like are cross plane like on the R1 or MT10. I don't want a supersport, and the MT10 is just fugly to me. I like the Brutale, but it's not nearly the complete performance package the Tuono is.
I also do most of my own work so I'm not too concerned about dealership access, availability of parts, etc. If I was concerned about those things, not only would I not be interested in the Tuono, I never would've gotten the Triumph. I would've gone Japanese if that really mattered to me.
But I'm really splitting hairs here. I'd be very happy to have an S1000R or 1290 Superduke in my garage. I like the Tuono just a little more.
Also I already use heated glove liners with the St3. Since my wife and I both have the liners, we have 2 wiring kits, with 1 installed on the Triumph I have another wiring kit for the Tuono so both bikes will be wired for heated gear. I much prefer heated liners to heated grips. I don't really tour much, so I've never really thought about cruise control before, but I'm sure it's a nice feature to have. My riding is mostly heading out to some curvy roads in the sticks.
Definitely wouldn't mind having the S1000R in the garage either. Just don't tell my wife
Don't confuse my comment concerning the brakes, the real issue for me was the quick acceleration, combined with the quick shift. Here in Boston we have a traffic light or semi emergency traffic concern every 100 feet. With a bike like Tuono and quite a few other liter size bikes, it is all about the stopping.
Options . . . so it looks like I can either pay about just under $400 ish to have it shipped to me, or I can put a $1500 non-refundable deposit down, and they'll hold it for me until spring. It's about 750km or over 8 hours of riding on highways back.
That is a very personal choice, I would ride it and maybe even take my time and grab a hotel 1/2 way all for less than the $400. Do check out Federal Transport, I've yet to find a better deal other than the "name your price" deals that are too iffy for me. AMA members get a discount that is greater then the $49/membership cost and free insurance up to $15,000. They are the official transporters for AMA and HOG. I used them and they are very professional.
I recently bought a new to me bike and decided to take a bus out and ride back. It all worked out, with a few little issues to contend with.
The bike was new to me and I hadn't ridden it prior to this, and it wasn't set up for me. I was really unfamiliar with it so there is the learning curve thing.
I had to deal with my insurance and registry to make it all legal.
Once on the way, and day turned to night, the head lights where out of focused and I didn't have any tools,..........
My advice would be to ride it back, but plan it out and if possible ride back with another person.
If you can, I'd definitely try and make the trip over, as almost everyone has suggested. You mentioned in your original post that you don't want to die it back, which is totally understandable. I bought a bike in Seattle at the beginning of January and decided to trailer it back. It's only a 5 hour drive, but I totally get not wanting to ride it back. I rented a trailer from U-Haul for $15 and called it good. But, if that just isn't in the cards, I'd have it shipped. I'm rather impatient though. :biggrinjester:
The problem is I don't have a tow rig. I checked with Uhaul, it's $80 to rent a 4' x 8' enclosed trailer (not interested in shipping the bike exposed on an open trailer bed) but I don't have anything to tow it with. I have a car with a hitch but no wiring for a trailer that we use for mountain bikes (that will be severely underpowered towing this setup) and access to a late model Highlander but it has no hitch or wiring for the trailer. A hitch ($300) and wiring harness ($75) for the highlander then install them, then $80 rental of the trailer, and we haven't even gotten to gas yet, and we're well past $400.
Ya, not interested in trailering it back basically.:biggrinjester:
So I visited the local Aprilia dealership last Saturday. Worked out a price with them yesterday over the phone after they checked with Piaggio for availability. Apparently 7-10 business days, and I got a few hundred off MSRP.
Gonna go back on Saturday to complete the paperwork. Looks like a 2016 Portimao Grey Tuono V4 1100 RR is on its way into town to join the 2015 Street Triple RX.
So I visited the local Aprilia dealership last Saturday. Worked out a price with them yesterday over the phone after they checked with Piaggio for availability. Apparently 7-10 business days, and I got a few hundred off MSRP.
Gonna go back on Saturday to complete the paperwork. Looks like a 2016 Portimao Grey Tuono V4 1000 RR is on its way into town to join the 2015 Street Triple RX.
Sweet! Let us know how you like it! I keep going back and forth on what I want to replace the Daytona with if they discontinue the model. BMW or Aprilia?? Tough call; both are very good.
Barring any unforeseen reliability/warranty issues, I have a feeling I'm gonna be in love with it.
And yes, I considered the S1000R seriously. But in the end the Tuono just seemed like more of the kinda bike I like. I'm sure for many others, it'll be the S1000R. By all accounts, the Tuono is an absolute blast in the corners. Compared head to head with the S1000R and the KTM SD1290, it seems to always come out on top. When it comes to the powerplant, all 3 offer absolute beasts. However, for me personally the Tuono has a ridiculously sexy engine note compared to what I consider a boring typical inline 4 engine note as found on the S1000R (not even a flat or cross plane crank like on the R1 or MT10/FZ10, which I do like). And I sat on an SD1290, and didn't like it. Felt like a giant supermoto bike to me as opposed to a sport bike. And I even like the SD1290's powerplant more than I do the S1000R.
Should be delivered some time towards the end of this month, and expecting to take it home sometime in March. Gonna take the St3RX with the wife 2up to the dealership to pick up the Tuono and ride home together. I'll be sure to come back here and post after I get it home for a bit.
Yea, the Aprilia definitely seems more exotic. Engine note is important to me. I love the triple sound as opposed to the boring inline 4 of my Ninja for example.
On the other hand, I also like light and nimble with smooth power delivery for the street and the BMW may win in that department, not sure?
Interesting. I test rode a 2015 S1000R back in the fall, and I felt like the 2016 1100 Tuono had better fuelling (transition from on/off throttle was less abrupt), and power delivery was smoother.
Admittedly I never got anywhere near close to riding either hard enough to really compare how "flickable" or agile they are compared to each other. The S1000R felt a little smaller, yet heavier, which was interesting.
Thanks. Not sure I'd be able to make use of them though. Austin is probably the closest and it's a multi day drive for me, and with the current US/CDN exchange rate, vacationing in the US isn't the best idea. But will ask tomorrow.
Just in time for it to get super cold around here. It's been a mild winter for the most part over in my area but got cold just in time to celebrate this purchase (-20* C daytime highs without windchill, when it's been mostly at or above 0* most of the winter so far . . . it was ~14* on Christmas eve).
Are the common issues mainly solved with the newer Aprilias? I did a little googling last weekend and seems like there are a multitude of potential problems.
The 2016s seem to be doing good. There have been a few issues, but nothing major.
1st, make sure you have the latest ecu flash. There was a hot start issue (bike would die if you started it and if the engine was warm). New map fixed it. I had this issue but switched to race ecu and not had it since.
There was an issue with the rear sprocket nuts coming loose. They updated the design in September. I just removed the washers on mine (previous years never used the washers). Never had that issue.
Leaking pull rod seal I had at 500 miles. I replaced myself in 5 mins for $12 bucks. Went with an aftermarket seal that was 0.5mm thicker. It's holding good so far. The OEM seal looks to be manufactured wrong. I tried replacing with OEM but leaked again after 500 miles.
Dash flickering off. Known issue that is fixed on bikes manufactured after September. I haven't had this issue. My guess a loose plug.
I would recommend removing the EVAP system to let the tank vent freely and to prevent tank swelling.
So far it's been a fun bike and no big issues as of 1500 miles.
If you track it, there is a mod you can do to the clutch case to vent the engine and install a catch can. The majority of stories you've heard about v4s blowing up on the track is because of the huge crank case pressure at high rpms.
Good info! None of these issues seem too terrible. Removing the EVAP canister should be simple and I would probably do it anyway since it caused starting issues on my Daytona as well.
I also read the hot start issue was due to a weak stock battery?
Nope it was a mapping issue on USA bikes only. Stock USA maps suck. It's why I bought the race ecu/mapping plus it's required for any type of aftermarket exhaust if in the USA.
It also makes a stupid farting noise if you leave it on. First day I didn't know WTF was going. I would be admiring the beauty of the bike and all of a sudden "beeeeerrrppppp"!
People at the gas stations probably thought I shit my leathers. That reason along is enough to take it off
It also makes a stupid farting noise if you leave it on. First day I didn't know WTF was going. I would be admiring the beauty of the bike and all of a sudden "beeeeerrrppppp"!
People at the gas stations probably thought I shit my leathers. That reason along is enough to take it off
just remove the tank and caswell (http://www.caswellplating.com/) coat the inside. did this to my last three ape tanks and have had zero issues with ethanol swelling. and ditching the evap helps too.
Thanks. How are you liking that Arrow exhaust? I was contemplating that very same exhaust but wanted to first confirm that it fits on the 2016 1100 model first.
Looks like you need to delete the passenger foot peg for the hanger. Is that correct?
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