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The 2016 FORUM Member Race Thread

Alright ladies and gents, some of us on this forum race our dear 675s. And some of us might have a dear 675, but we race on another bike, and that's OK too! I don't care to start my own thread to talk about my own racing, but let's get this thread going with all of our 2016 race results. I know, personally, all I want to talk about is racing, and I'm sure there are others that want to get some back and forth going on our bikes and setup and successes and challenges and everything else. And those that don't race might find some entertainment in keeping tabs on how their beloved Trumpets are doing on the grid these days. I know it's winter and it might take a couple months to get the thread really off and running, but for the southerners that are able to to do some racing through the winter, let's hear it because I'm sure the northerners need something to get them thru til spring!

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With that said, I'll try to kick it off right. And I might go a little word-heavy because I'm hoping to provide a lot of meat to spark some conversation here.

Background first. I grew up with a dirt bike, and at 22 bought my first street bike. Through a series of way-too-fast-for-me bike, including an 1198, luckily I survived my squid-dom til June 2014 when I bought my first bike with the intent of learning to ride on the track. I started doing track days on my Ducati 999 in August 2014 with the California Superbike School, and I was hooked from jump street. Fast forward a year and about 15 track days, and the scene was set for getting into racing. But not on my 999 -- it's a sublime track bike, but I don't want to learn to race on a litrebike twin torque-monster, and what fun would it be to bring a knife to a gun fight anyway? The 999 can't class with modern litrebikes any more. Plus, this thing is way too expensive to crash, and it's getting old enough now that parts are getting harder to come by and even more expensive.

So I bought a 2010 Daytona 675 in September for a couple reasons. First, I wanted to learn to race on a middleweight bike (for anyone that thought that was unwise and that I should get a 250 or a SV, my retort was that I had already done about 15 track days at that point on a Ducati Superbike, so handling the power of a middleweight bike wasn't going to be a problem). Middleweight bikes are fast enough to still be fun coming off my other bike, and a good middleweight bike can run both middleweight races and Open/Unlimited races and still be decently competitive. Second reason is because the Daytona feels the most like a Ducati of all the Middleweights -- thin through the middle, and not as much torque as a Duc but definitely a hell of a lot more than the I-4s. And third, I like running a different bike and you just don't see a lot of Triumphs on the track.

So what have I done to it? Ohlins NIX30 cartridges, 675R TTX shock with adjustable ride height clevis added, Triumph Race Support linear link, Hyperpro steering damper, AP rearsets, 15T front sprocket, Ferodo XRAC pads, Sharkskinz fairings, GB Racing covers and sliders, MJS headers, Arrow slip-on, Sprint air filter, Bazzaz Z-Fi/QS/TC; in the works is a 675R front MC, Sato shift spindle holder, JHS oil cooler, SES steering stop, and getting stock triples modded to 28mm offset.

So, now, for racing.

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Did my first intro to racing weekend back in November at Arroyo Seco, which is where I'll be racing this whole season. I crashed out of my first race (cold tires on a cold morning), and took 3rd out of 9 in my second race, although it was a Sportsman's Cup race that had some 250s/300s in it.

My first real race weekend was this weekend at Chuckwalla with CVMA. I've never ridden there before, so I did the Friday track day before the 3 races I was signed up for on Saturday: AM SS Open, AM Formula MW, and AM SS MW. On Friday during the track day, I learned that the curbing paint is NOT grippy like it is on some other tracks I've ridden, and I very nearly ate shit on a pretty fast corner from touching the paint on the inside. Saturday morning has a couple practice sessions then a qualifying session -- my 2:03.2 best qualifying lap, 2 full seconds faster than I was the day before (fresh tires) put me about middle of the starting grid for all the MW races. My first race of the day on Saturday though -- AM SS Open -- I was starting 7th out of 10, and luckily the expectations were low considering half the grid was litrebikes. I basically ran alone for the whole 6 laps, and chopped a second off with a 2:02.3 best lap. Multiple red flags throughout the day, some fairly bad crashes. I was signed up for AM Formula MW, the 4th race of the day -- I was gridded 8th of 18. On the second lap, I was running in 7th when an overzealous guy missed his brake marker or just thought he wanted to get inside of me right at the apex of a fast turn (Turn 15) -- I ran way wide on the exit, and given that even a good line uses the whole track thru there, I straightened the bike up and accepted my fate with a runoff into the dirt. I rejoined in last place, caught a few guys over the next lap and a half, and then the race was red flagged -- I had just hit the halfway mark of the race, and they called it complete. So I wound up 14th of the 17 finishers. Due to all the red flags, my last race of the day, race #13 AM SS MW, was going to be happening very close to sunset, and the last 5 races were all announced to only be 4 laps. With that, I scratched from the race, not wanting to only get 2/3rds of a race after only getting half a race earlier, and the track would be cold. So I decided to stay another night and signed up for AM SS Open and AM SS MW on Sunday.

On Sunday, I was gridded 7th of 17 for AM SS MW. Good start, made two passes on the 2nd to last lap, and then ran for my life on the last lap to hold down 5th with a best lap of 1:58.9! All of a sudden I was a legit amateur club racer, and it just took the competition and perfect track conditions to bring it out of me. If I'm able to carry that performance leap over to my "home track" this season, I'll be very competitive in the AM races, and should be able to grab some podiums. I finished my race weekend with another run at the AM SS Open, gridded 6th of 8. I ran the whole race alone, finished in 6th with a 1:59.9 best lap, and called it a race weekend.

Really happy with my D212s this weekend, and I surprisingly got comfortable with lateral movement of the tire for the first time, something I never thought would happen. But the D212s are predictable when they slip, and when they would slip a little bit because I was on the edge I was able to stay right on that fine line. For pressures, I was running 20 hot rear, 33 hot front -- that was a little higher than I started running in the rear but this is such a fast and grippy track, and you're always on the side of your tire, that I went up a little in the rear to actually help keep the tire a little cooler to control the sliding. Track temps were in the 60s according to my highly precise Harbor Freight digital pyrometer.

Here's a couple pics/links on the weekend: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...at-chuckwalla/
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Thank you for the write up. Better than expected results and shaved off 4 seconds!
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I don't have anything to report since I'm in Wisconsin, but I'll show you my 300 Ninja race bike. I just finished building it and can't wait for winter to go away. I've got a world class 1.1 mile kart track near me also that will be fun for practice time too. The 300 is well modded, I won't list everything but the good stuff is Ohlins and K-tech suspension and dual tunes for MR12 and 91 octane pump gas.




I'll be racing at some midwest tracks, Road America, Blackhawk Farms, Autobahn Country Club, and maybe Brainerd if I can work out a 7 hour drive.
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Thank you for the write up. Better than expected results and shaved off 4 seconds!
Good change to the thread title, that makes more sense and hopefully pulls more active racers in. And thanks, it was a quantum leap for me -- before this weekend I had some self-doubt on whether or not I could race and be competitive any time soon, so this weekend really gave me a lot of confidence in the bike and in myself!

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I don't have anything to report since I'm in Wisconsin, but I'll show you my 300 Ninja race bike. I just finished building it and can't wait for winter to go away. I've got a world class 1.1 mile kart track near me also that will be fun for practice time too. The 300 is well modded, I won't list everything but the good stuff is Ohlins and K-tech suspension and dual tunes for MR12 and 91 octane pump gas.




I'll be racing at some midwest tracks, Road America, Blackhawk Farms, Autobahn Country Club, and maybe Brainerd if I can work out a 7 hour drive.
Ultra lightweight racing is blowing up out here in the Southwest, I assume it's the same everywhere. There's really a lot going for it -- cheap tires that last a few weekends, cheap parts, cheap maintenance, and everyone that races them can carry corner speed like nobody's business. It doesn't look any less fun than any other class of racing either, and if anything it might be even more fun because the ULW guys seem to be much more of a community than the MW and Open guys. There's obviously pride and camaraderie in racing the little bikes! There's a supermoto/mini track here in Tucson that's pretty famous too -- they have open track nights that allow sportbikes from time to time, and I believe the ULW bikes are usually faster than the MW/Open bikes. The motorcycle lap record holder I think is a 250cc supermoto.

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There's really a lot going for it -- cheap tires that last a few weekends, cheap parts, cheap maintenance, and everyone that races them can carry corner speed like nobody's business.
It's the tires. On these bikes you get more than a few weekends. And the Dunlop A13s stick like hell and are cheap. On my 675, a $400 set of Pirellis last 2 days. Ultralight isn't quite the dog eat dog meatgrinder of middleweight. It's still competitive, but I think there's more fun there and the racers seem more easygoing. MR12 is $30 a gallon, but this bike sips it while middleweight guzzle it.

Still keeping my 675 around as a fun bike but I won't be racing it.
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Cool topic on the thread. I think that this sport is contiuning to grow and seeing threads like this validate my suspicions. Its addicting and is a great way to get seat time and make life long friends for the same price or even cheaper than a track day!

HHR is a quality motorcycle performance parts online store and also a professional motorcycle road race team. We have a few racers competing in a few Motoamerica rounds and also about 10 racers across the united states racing in various AMA sanctioned racing organizations.

We started racing just like any of you and have it 24/7 on the brain. like we like to say "Its more than just a Passion, Its an Obsession"

We are opening our new shop as we speak and have a online e-commerce store that is about 75% finished. Racers trying to be businessmen you know! We dont have big money investors, we dont have a business degree, we are just doing what we love and making it happen step by step, day by day. It has taught us so much about how the industry works..

Cant wait for the 2016 seasons to start - I will def be posting up some race reports and any other significant race news on this thread.

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It's the tires. On these bikes you get more than a few weekends. And the Dunlop A13s stick like hell and are cheap. On my 675, a $400 set of Pirellis last 2 days. Ultralight isn't quite the dog eat dog meatgrinder of middleweight. It's still competitive, but I think there's more fun there and the racers seem more easygoing. MR12 is $30 a gallon, but this bike sips it while middleweight guzzle it.

Still keeping my 675 around as a fun bike but I won't be racing it.


If all I'm doing is track days, it looks like I can get probably 3-4 track days out of a Dunlop D212 rear, and I can probably get another 2-3 on top of that out of a front. But that's not at race pace that you could hit on fresh tires. At Chuck last weekend on a fresh set I did 2 10 min practice sessions easy, then a 15 min qualifying session, then basically 3 6 lap races (2.68 mile course, high average speed track so it eats up tires). After that, I wouldn't go back out to race on these again unless I didn't care about the outcome. I'll still get a couple good track days out of them, but just after that amount of race laps the race grip is gone. I don't think I'll ever race something bigger than a MW, even that is tough financially. Maybe I'll add a little bike to the garage!

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Killer picture of Tyler goss on his Hustlehardracing.com Yamaha r6 from this past weeekend at Chuckwalla racing with CVMA.
This bike is bad!!!! And is soon to be sold. Hopefully it stays within the team.. Tylers a big boy and is waiting for someone to put him on a 1000 lol. You know he needs it.


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