setup Striple R suspension, any good ??

[chinski]

i have been setting up the suspension on my 2010 Street Triple R & i have searched this forum looking for setup ideas but only found one Streety setup that is quite different to what i have, i'll list what i have setup so far below & if anyone has any ideas / suggestions / thoughts on how it is or where to go from here ti improve it more i'd love to hear them. also has anyone dropped the triples down the fork legs at all ? the bike has Rosso II's on it now but will be fitting Corsas next & doing afew trackdays, the road riding i do is all out in the smooth corners in the hills riding hard (knee down on road), occasional bumpy roads which i found taking out 2 clicks of ALL dampers makes it hold a line much better, anyway heres what i have so far :

weight + gear = 90kg / 198 pounds

front rider sag = 36 mm -- 1 turn out from full in preload
front rebound = 4 clicks out
front comp = 4 clicks out

rear rider sag = 32mm --16mm / 0.65 inch thread showing above collars
rear rebond = 8 clicks out
rear comp = 8 clicks out

cheers
chinski

[mello]

Originally Posted by chinski

i have been setting up the suspension on my 2010 Street Triple R & i have searched this forum looking for setup ideas but only found one Streety setup that is quite different to what i have, i'll list what i have setup so far below & if anyone has any ideas / suggestions / thoughts on how it is or where to go from here ti improve it more i'd love to hear them. also has anyone dropped the triples down the fork legs at all ? the bike has Rosso II's on it now but will be fitting Corsas next & doing afew trackdays, the road riding i do is all out in the smooth corners in the hills riding hard (knee down on road), occasional bumpy roads which i found taking out 2 clicks of ALL dampers makes it hold a line much better, anyway heres what i have so far :

weight + gear = 90kg / 198 pounds

front rider sag = 36 mm -- 1 turn out from full in preload
front rebound = 4 clicks out
front comp = 4 clicks out

rear rider sag = 32mm --16mm / 0.65 inch thread showing above collars
rear rebond = 8 clicks out
rear comp = 8 clicks out

cheers
chinski

I would think the Sport settings would work well for your riding conditions:

Frt preload = 7 turns out from fully screwed in
Frt rebound = 2 clicks out
Frt comp = 2 clicks out
Rear rebound = 6 clicks out
Rear comp = 6 clicks out

[MacBandit]

Honestly I think you'll find the damping screws make much less difference then you think. You can put a lot of turns on them with very little change in feell When I set mine up for track/street I was around 180lbs. My preload is 3 lines and all the damping settings are actually a couple turns out (softer) then Triumphs soft setting in the manual. Last time I was at the track it felt as if the front preload might have been a little soft but every other adjustment (front and rear) was slightly stiff. I'm now closer to 160lbs and I'll be fitting a Penske shock before next summer so none of my setting are correct for me anymore. If I can get the money I'll upgrade the forks too since they really aren't very good.

[one4ale]

Originally Posted by chinski

i have been setting up the suspension on my 2010 Street Triple R & i have searched this forum looking for setup ideas but only found one Streety setup that is quite different to what i have, i'll list what i have setup so far below & if anyone has any ideas / suggestions / thoughts on how it is or where to go from here ti improve it more i'd love to hear them. also has anyone dropped the triples down the fork legs at all ? the bike has Rosso II's on it now but will be fitting Corsas next & doing afew trackdays, the road riding i do is all out in the smooth corners in the hills riding hard (knee down on road), occasional bumpy roads which i found taking out 2 clicks of ALL dampers makes it hold a line much better, anyway heres what i have so far :

weight + gear = 90kg / 198 pounds

front rider sag = 36 mm -- 1 turn out from full in preload
front rebound = 4 clicks out
front comp = 4 clicks out

rear rider sag = 32mm --16mm / 0.65 inch thread showing above collars
rear rebond = 8 clicks out
rear comp = 8 clicks out

cheers
chinski

2012 R - I'm often fiddling w/my set-up but here's what I've currently got -
weight in gear = 175 lbs

front
sag = 35mm - preload screwed all the way in
rebound = 2 clicks out
comp = 2 clicks out
4mm of fork tube showing above top triple clamp

rear
sag = 35mm - about 17mm tread above lock ring collar
rebound = 6 clicks out
comp = 6 clicks out

I feel the front damping settings are a smidge stiff over the rougher pavement but overall, this set-up seems to be stable and fairly well planted.

BTW, currently running Dunlop Q2s.

[Orangeman]

Keeping in mind that our stock forks have long, soft, top out springs the traditional 30 front and back pre-load doesn't apply and your front sag can be much more to be correct. Best to clock the forks action rather than go by static numbers on our, as well as many other late model bikes forks. Could be as much as 40/45.

A good article that explains it better : http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_1...s/viewall.html

And the setting procedure: http://www.moto-racing.co.uk/Guides/...p.htm#Counting

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[one4ale]

Originally Posted by Orangeman

Keeping in mind that our stock forks have long, soft, top out springs the traditional 30 front and back pre-load doesn't apply and your front sag can be much more to be correct. Best to clock the forks action rather than go by static numbers on our, as well as many other late model bikes forks. Could be as much as 40/45.

A good article that explains it better : http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_1...s/viewall.html

And the setting procedure: http://www.moto-racing.co.uk/Guides/...p.htm#Counting

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More fiddling required!
Thanks for the references to sag!

[chinski]

great stuff there guys thanks for the replies & links, it looks like i can go a bit softer on front preload, & probably add some compression + rebound to the front & rear

i will keep on adjusting as i ride & just doing a little at a time to see what works for me & what doesn't

[MacBandit]

one4ale

I wonder if they changed the fork spring over the years. When I set my sag I weighed 180lbs and I got 30mm with 3 lines showing. You're getting 36mm with the same weight with only 1 line?

As for soft top out that may be the case but I'm still within a quarter inch of bottoming at the track with only 30mm of sag. With the stock springs 180lbs really is near the upper weight limit for aggressive track riding.

[MemphisR32]

I think fork springs changed over the builds of the bikes. My suspension guy ran into an issued when he took my forks appart last year in that the spring rate is correct for my weight 195-200 with gear but we could not get a change in the preload more than 4mm from full in to full out (42mm-46mm). He machined a 7mm spacer and added that to the spring stackup and everything checks out now. Also threw in some gold valves when it was rebuilt.

The rear we had to respring to a 9.8N (i believe) and the bike feels A LOT better.

[MacBandit]

The lack of adjustment is a very strong indicator of a strong top out spring.