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Old 11-19-12, 20:49   #11
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right side lean seems more natural to me - probably because on the street most sharp turns tend to be to the right - as stated above - or maybe because in hockey I stop to the right and avoid stopping on my left - or I just can't skate. Always a weaker than side so practice is the only fix.
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Old 11-19-12, 20:52   #12
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turning back also sucks..

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Old 11-19-12, 21:07   #13
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Seat time improves it as long as you actually use correct body position and stay loose on the handlebars.
Last time I had problems with RH turns was on my 250, on which I can't hang off properly anyway due to ergo problems. On the D none of those issues exist.
Some people suggest turning your inside hand so you're holding the grip like a screwdriver, like my left hand is here:


This may or may not work for you...it's definitely better than bending your wrist 90 degrees when you're trying to drop the inside elbow.

And, of course, "none of this is relevant for the street because there's no reason to go that fast" disclaimer :)
my instructor told me the same thing bout the screwdriver method for right handers, said it makes it much easier to turn an NOT change throttle abruptly, :-)
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Old 11-19-12, 22:55   #14
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You just have to relax. Your hands should be loose on the grips.it you have problems turning right go to barber and ride it a few days. Can't see changing my hand position like that as i'm usually using the clutch and brake on the way into the corner. Then again i don't really have problems with right hand corners most of the time.
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Old 11-20-12, 00:05   #15
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my instructor told me the same thing bout the screwdriver method for right handers, said it makes it much easier to turn an NOT change throttle abruptly, :-)
So...in left handers I can do that.
In right handers I find the screwdriver position extremely inconvinient. Oh, it feels great through the entire turn until I have to stand up and regrip the throttle..in which case, about half the time, the throttle slips in my hand and a nasty jerk follows.
So in RH turns I don't go for the extreme screwdriver, but rather keep the outer edge of the palm planted firmly against the grip and just "rotate" the hand around that. Still a screwdriver, and allows the elbow to drop.
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Old 11-20-12, 00:20   #16
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right handers on the street are always tighter turns. you're on the inside of the curve...at the apex to so speak. left handers are always on the outside of the curve...way wide of the apex. sight lines are most always shorter on right curves as well.
That's a true story good sir.

I'm hoping to get out this weekend and get some time in, I'll give the hand positioning a try too.

So off topic, maybe should make a new thread about this lol ... BUT, does anyone have better days when shifting? Like some days, my shifts are pro, like butter. Others, I'm like a blind man picking out a porno and can't shift smooth for dear life. What about you guys?


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Old 11-20-12, 09:58   #17
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So...in left handers I can do that.
In right handers I find the screwdriver position extremely inconvinient. Oh, it feels great through the entire turn until I have to stand up and regrip the throttle..in which case, about half the time, the throttle slips in my hand and a nasty jerk follows.
So in RH turns I don't go for the extreme screwdriver, but rather keep the outer edge of the palm planted firmly against the grip and just "rotate" the hand around that. Still a screwdriver, and allows the elbow to drop.
yea I wuldnt go full screwdriver either, an I watched his hand postion when he cornered myself, he doesn't either, his biggest shift is his thumb.. but he does enough to see it what he means and get the elbow out in the process but doesn't loose throttle control,
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Old 11-20-12, 10:18   #18
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I was just about to rant about your road positioning for right handers when I saw this was a Stateside post. Ooops! Here in England I of course ride on the left. (and possibly a bit quicker)
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So off topic, maybe should make a new thread about this lol ... BUT, does anyone have better days when shifting? Like some days, my shifts are pro, like butter. Others, I'm like a blind man picking out a porno and can't shift smooth for dear life. What about you guys?
So I took my old 250 to the track just to play around. Changed to GP shift in the morning to match D675. Everything going great...you know where this is going. In the 3pm session, I'm at rev limiter in 2nd gear, I go to upshift into 3rd and naturally I downshift into 1st.
Video shows that the tank slapper (well, this was the reaction to rear fishtailing severely) lasted only .5s, but it felt like an eternity.
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yeah, the opposite would apply in most of Europe. once i got on the track, i lost any perceived right/left bias. i accept your challenge to determine the quickest. haha.

GP shift...i've switched all my street bikes over to the same pattern to match the race bikes. not so bad to upshift when you mean to downshift (unless you're counting on engine braking) but the reverse can result in a premature top end job. this is why i've switched everything to reverse pattern...so i don't have to think about it.
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