Four More Years... FML

[MadMel]

I'll cut whip_00 some slack. Most of us come here to escape reality, but emotions run high at the time of election, and sometimes you just can't help yourself when you care about the topic.

To the subject of not voting... in Australia, everyone votes. It is the law. It's an interesting way to make sure that the majority opinion wins. As a lowly permanent resident, I'm not allowed to vote, though.

[ZWIKX]

Originally Posted by MadMel

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To the subject of not voting... in Australia, everyone votes. It is the law. It's an interesting way to make sure that the majority opinion wins. As a lowly permanent resident, I'm not allowed to vote, though.

i am now confused by that statement

[MadMel]

Originally Posted by ZWIKX

i am now confused by that statement

I'm a Canadian citizen (not an Australian citizen), I am only allowed to stay in Oz because I have permanent residency (a step below citizenship).

[ZWIKX]

thanks for clearing that up

[Rink675]

I would like to say that I spent 10 months in southern Afghanistan and I have actually experienced what goes on over there and what the media puts out.

First off, it is wrong to put the blame on one single president.....although it is much easier to blame someone in the presence of the media then the others whom don't appear on the brainwash box all of the time lol.

I do not support our current president, when he said he was going to pull troops out of Afghanistan I was actually apart of the surge that was sent over there in the summer of 2010. Now don't get me wrong, not saying I was upset for having to go.....I am actually very glad I did because now I have a much different outlook on the world as a whole.

Set all of the conspiracies aside because that is how people get into big arguments and lose track of the current picture. The problem is not one man....the problem is a group of people who feel that the endless amount of frivolous spending is acceptable and deemed necessary to economic recovery......now that makes no sense, how do you justify printing more money and raising debt levels making progress?

Now I saw something mentioned about increased taxes......do you guys see how many taxes we are already paying? Does the word "obamacare" not ring a bell? Sure it grants people medical coverage BUT it's still a TAX, if obama said "I am going to increase taxes" everyone would be pissed off....however he slaps a medicare stamp on it and gets away with it. Now I don't have an issue with medicare being in place, what I have an issue with is say.....worker Joe gets 250.00 a month taken out of his check for HIS medical insurance, now Joe ALSO pays say 58.00 for medicare "obamacare" so essentially now you are paying 308.00 a month for the SAME COVERAGE YOU WERE GETTING BEFORE.

There needs to be a compromise, why are people being taxed for medicare and then being double tapped on their own medicare? That is not right.....

You are also paying an inflation tax whether you believe that or not.....the federal reserve (fiat money, remember history class?) prints this money out of thin air with no representation. Due to the increased spending of the government EVERY YEAR we find the dollar decreases a liiiiiitttttlllleeee bit more every time we print more money which makes everything a little more expensive. Thus creating an inflation tax......remember when a 20OZ soda would cost you 1.00 or 1.25 and now its 1.75 or almost 2.00? That's not because sprite jacked up the prices people.

Back to the war aspect, without us paying taxes military personnel wouldn't be getting paid. Now the government has spent WAAAAYYYY too much money on this whole "terrorism" garbage. I have been there in the middle of it, I had mortar rounds landing 30m away from my tent and felt the concussion from everyone of them. Let me tell you something.....if the troops over there are coming back and saying things against the war because of the orders passed down, the things they have seen and or experienced I highly suggest you take their word for it!

Last thing I will cover, I want you to take a look at the whole picture.....dig deep, real deep and you will find things you don't want to believe. Forget the economy and gay marriage, we have bigger issues to worry about.....has anyone seen the footage of U.N. troops IN AMERICA practicing martial law operations?

If that doesn't worry you....................I don't know what else to tell you!

[pyroking339]

Originally Posted by TwoWheeledWonder

I honestly don't care, I don't vote (AHHH I KNOW!!!) mainly because I do not find one person in power worth my vote, many people forget that our government works for US and not the other way around. So then they get thrown a bunch of stupid bullshit that has nothing of real value like religion, etc.. and they worry about that instead of this country actually working on bettering ourselves and focusing on fixing our weak points like our education system, roads/highways, economy, and just the well being of our citizens.

But you get these stupid fucks throwing stuff like oh he went to this church instead of this church or something of that matter, or the best part like these idiots throwing socialism around like they even have a clue of how that system works without having to wikipedia it. I fail to see how our country is becoming a socialized government from having people buy into healthcare, while I think the initial idea Obama has put out there needs a lot of work I see nothing wrong with having people have healthcare coverage. I rather pay into that knowing a child can go get help then save a few dollars.

And if this country is socialist, then most states must already be a form of socialized government considering many states make you buy into several things.


But anyways I rather come there for the women haha the accents are mmmmmmmmmmm

I considered a write in for a Mr. Kill T. All when I voted...