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Old 11-06-12, 09:23   #21
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In speaking with an overly strict CCS tech guy, if its not mentioned in the rule book, it can be changed....

There are people running total loss units down here also...
Ahhh fackers... I just got my kit alternator... hmm so changing out the valve spring shouldn't be an issue... but on the other hand,
Degreed cams valve job are allowed? Don't they require machining the original parts?

(3.) Original equipment head, valves, and cams must remain as produced, with the exception of machining the gasket surface of the cylinder head.

I am no mechanic so I am bit confused here... when they mention allowing the cylinder head machining does that mean port and valve seating is allowed?
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Most orgs do allow milling the head and also a valve job. Once you start modifying the ports you need to look at SBK only.
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No port work, stock cam "sticks".....
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if its not mentioned in the rule book, it can be changed....

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That is one place where the WERA rulebook is different from CCS then.

Direct quote "The items above constitute the entire realm of deviation from showroom stock for Superstock classes. If it does not mention you CAN do it, you CAN NOT."

http://maps.wera.com/rulebook/?x=1098
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Wera is much more strict than CCS....
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In speaking with an overly strict CCS tech guy, if its not mentioned in the rule book, it can be changed....

There are people running total loss units down here also...

Yea, I think reality is a better representation than the rulebook. The truth is, there's no way tech can inspect anything inside the motor at a CCS race. Just not practical.

Most of guys who win here at SuperStock also win Superbike and GP. So what does that tell you about the need for mods?

But here's another option: just don't race superstock. CCS has so many classes for the 675, i just don't see how skipping one class would matter. IN fact, Superstock is typically a total cluster'F in the northeast (40+ racers!), so I skip it on purpose. Even the heavyweight S.Stock class is packed.
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So let me get this straight:

CCS Supersport -
No Porting
YES to cam timing/ valve job, velocity stacks and kit alternator

WERA Superstock -
No Porting or Kit Alternator
Yes to cam timing/ valve job, velocity stacks

Is that correct?

Where do they stand in terms of rear subframes and rear linkage? I have yoyodyne rear subframe and only thing it's missing is a strut for rear passenger.

God damn it why are all the rules facking different?
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Yea, I think reality is a better representation than the rulebook. The truth is, there's no way tech can inspect anything inside the motor at a CCS race. Just not practical.

Most of guys who win here at SuperStock also win Superbike and GP. So what does that tell you about the need for mods?

But here's another option: just don't race superstock. CCS has so many classes for the 675, i just don't see how skipping one class would matter. IN fact, Superstock is typically a total cluster'F in the northeast (40+ racers!), so I skip it on purpose. Even the heavyweight S.Stock class is packed.
Hmmm yeah that's what I've heard... Do any of you guys race in WERA East? I am just curious to see the difference. Also when you say they race in Superbike and GP you are saying on the same bike right?
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Hmmm yeah that's what I've heard... Do any of you guys race in WERA East? I am just curious to see the difference. Also when you say they race in Superbike and GP you are saying on the same bike right?
Yes, no one has more than one race bike.

There really is no WERA east. Summit Point is the closest to this area.

WERA's grids will be MUCH lighter than CSS, but the costs are much higher. Tech is also tougher, for they take it more seriously. Each has their pros and cons.

NJMP is only an hour away for me, so I'll stick with CCS. I have no real desire to travel to Summit Point.
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Yes, no one has more than one race bike.

There really is no WERA east. Summit Point is the closest to this area.

WERA's grids will be MUCH lighter than CSS, but the costs are much higher. Tech is also tougher, for they take it more seriously. Each has their pros and cons.

NJMP is only an hour away for me, so I'll stick with CCS. I have no real desire to travel to Summit Point.
Holy shit... yeah Summit Point is pretty darn far away from me (Manhattan)... I guess CSS makes much more sense :)
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